Verification of Birth Certificates

[danielendara]

I need some help. I am trying to verify if my great great grandfather's and his son's birth certificate are available from Naples. Any information on my great great grandfather's wife would also be of great help

Fortunately, I do have a reasonable amount of information that my family has gathered over the years:

My great great grandfather's name is Davide Lofruscio
Here is his birth date:
Nato il 1 de marzo 1864( other sources I have say 1863) passato a Dio il 22 gennaio 1955


His wife's name is: Clara Bazano( other sources I have, have the last name as Borzane or Bazan )


Great great grandfather's Death Certificate information:
--
COMUNE DI NAPOLI
DIREZIONI SERVIZI DEMOGRAFICI
11A. DIVISIONE (STATO CIVILE)
CERTIFICATO DI MORTE
Il sottoscritto ufficiale dello Stato Civile
CERTIFICA
che dal registro degli atti di morte dell'anno mille 955 parte D serie - - n 48
Sezione Chiaia risulta che nel giorno 25 del mese di gennaio dell'anno
mille 955 é morto in Napoli nell´etá di anni 91
(1) LOFRUSCIO DAVIDE di stato civile (2) Vedovo di Bazano Clara di
professione medico
Si rilascia in carta non bollata per uso di
Napoli, li 03/11 1999
(two signatures)
IL TRASCRITTORE RESPONSABLE y de L'UFFICIALE DI STATO CIVILE
--
My great grandfather, Davide's son is:
Angel ( or maybe Angelo ) David Lofruscio Bazan ( not sure on the second last name from above ). Was born March 29th of 1900.
He may have not have been born in Italy since Davide and Clara emigrated to Paraguay sometime before or around 1919.

Here is some extra info:
Davide had a brother: Ernesto Gaspare Lofruscio, born in Naples in 1887.
Davide had 5 children: 1) Silvio 2) Alma 3) Clara 4) Angel( or Angelo ) 5) Pietro. Child number 4 being my great grandfather.


My family has all records up to my grandfather, but we don't have much about his dad ( Angel ) or his grandfather ( Davide ) . We are currently seeking Italian citizenship and the existence of birth certificates of the people mentioned above would help tremendously.

I appreciate any help and I look forward to hopefully hearing any good news.

Thanks,

Daniel

[VaDeb]

In order to verify birth records, you will have to check microfilm or write to Napoli.

Here is the microfilm records available:
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library ... ato+civile++

You can also check and see if the records happen to be here:
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/ ... search.asp

You can write to Napoli:
http://en.comuni-italiani.it/063/049/index.html

This assumes you mean they are from the town of Napoli and not from one of the many towns in the province of Napoli.


Here is a post by Trish on how to use/get microfilm:
http://italiangenealogy.tardio.com/inde ... pic&t=2581

Debbie

[danielendara]

Great! Thanks for the reply.

The first link will be of great use. I will contact the FHC and see if they can help me.

The second link seems to be taking me to a "not found" page.

I am going to write an email to Naples as well. I am assuming English is not a problem for them.

Yes, from what we know my ancestors come from the town Napoli, but as you said it is very possible it could be anywhere in the province.

I will post my findings in the upcoming days/weeks. Hopefully I will get some information sooner that I expect.

-Daniel

[VaDeb]

Hi,

The second link works for me, but try www.familysearch.org

All of our Italian posters instruct us to send all communications to Italy in Italian. Here are some links for sending requests to Italy:

http://www.anzwers.org/free/italiangen/ ... #relatives

http://www.circolocalabrese.org/resourc ... /index.asp

Another option is to find the passenger manifests from when your ancestors immigrated to USA. How much detail as to their place of birth will depend on year of immigration.

Debbie

[danielendara]

they didn't emigrate to the USA.

They went to Paraguay. My uncle recently found a record of a ticket and they came to Paraguay in 1919, not sure if that is the first visit.

Ok, I don't speak Italian I may have to ask someone I know to write it for me.

Thanks!!

-Daniel

[danielendara]

My local FHC in Atlanta is nearby. I will go visit it this upcoming week.

I forgot to mention that the record the FHC has on microfilm is up to 1865.

How can I look at records of people between 1865 and maybe 1920?

Thanks.

-Daniel

[danielendara]

Out of curiosity I checked Ellis Island's website. I was happy that I did find a match. Even though my family never resided in the U.S. They did travel and were transit passengers in New York!

I found information on my great great grandfather's younger brother.

He traveled 3 times

Here is information on the first trip:

First Name: Ernesto Gaspare
Last Name: Lofruscio
Ethnicity: South Italian
Last Place of Residence: Secondigliano Napoli, Italy
Date of Arrival: Dec 26, 1911
Age at Arrival: 26y Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: San Guglielmo
Port of Departure: Naples
Manifest Line Number: 0008

Could I assume that my great great grandfather being his older brother lived in the same house in Italy?? Very likely.

Can someone help me and explain to me if Secondigliano Napoli, Italy is in the city of Naples or outside of the city?

Going today to my local FHC!

[Biff83]

Looks like it's in the city of Naples.

Secondigliano comune: Napoli - province: Napoli - region: Campania

http://www.italyworldclub.com/italian_f ... cu-sel.htm

[danielendara]

Excellent! I appreciate the reply.

I'm still going to the FHC to try to confirm my great great grandfather's birth location. If it matches what I just found on his brother, then I can go ahead a request the birth certicates I need.

Who do you people recommend the most for that?
www.mytalianfamily.com?
www.myitaliancitizenship.com?

Thanks!!

[danielendara]

Quick Update:

Ordered 3 Microfilms from FHC. Birth records of the Napoli Stato Civile
The years covered are 1862-1865. If you are in the Atlanta area please contact me so that you can take advantage of them being here when they arrive in like 2-3 weeks.

Also contacted CEMLA ( www.cemla.com ) They do have records of entry of my family. They are really nice and they do inquiries outside of Argentina.

I have more information than ever before! I got tons of information that I have gathered in 1 week, that my family hasn't been able to do in years!

Thanks all for the help.

I do want some help as to what site is the best in ordering italian certificates:
mytialianfamily.com??
myitaliancitizenship.com??

Any other suggestions?

-Daniel

[VaDeb]

Why pay the premium to order a birth record. YOu can send a letter (written in Italian) to the comune and request the birth record. Also send a copy of your license, or some form of identification and 2 international postal reply coupons.

Great to hear you have made so much progress.

Debbie

[danielendara]

Ok. that is definitely worth a try. I don't speak Italian, but I have seen the site that was previously mentioned in this thread so that I can request it in Italian.

How responsive is the comune?
I am assuming that will have a cost. How much would that be?
Is email ok?


Thanks,
-Daniel

[kelseyrosew]

Hi Daniel,

I'm not sure you'll see this since you posted in 2007, but my name is Kelsey and to my complete surprise, we are related!

My late grandfather is Angel Teodoro Lofruscio, son of Angel Davide Lofruscio. I had heard many stories of my great-grandfather being born in Naples only after my Papa passed away in 2019 (which is a surprise because to my mind, he was always from Ecuador and so was his family). My aunt mentioned recently that my great-grandfather lived in a rather massive home on the waterfront in Naples and now it is a hotel that you can stay in. I recently moved to France from the US, so I began searching for this hotel to see if the story is true. After a quick search of my great-grandfather's name, your post came up. I was reading the names and thought that there were too many coincidences--Angel, Bazan, Ernesto, etc.

Were you able to find all of the information you needed about the (our!) family? I would love to have a talk to share whatever information you have about our family if you're up for it. I am close to tears with the serendipity of this entire thing!