Why Y-DNA Haplogroup?

Genetic genealogy is the application of genetics to traditional genealogy. Genetic genealogy involves the use of genealogical DNA testing to determine the level and type of the genetic relationship between individuals.
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darkerhorse wrote: 16 Jul 2021, 20:21 Why wouldn't it be everybody's best bet?
It would be, unless you were seeking more ancient origins...
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Speaking of ancient origins, this is a photo of my two oldest male ancestors on my direct paternal line who would share the same Y haplogroup as me.

Do you detect any olive skin?
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I'd be more concerned about the prominent brow than the olive skin... :lol: :wink:
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My Y haplogroup appears to have made it's way from Eurasia to Scotland in ancient times.

Being full-Sicilian on my parental side it was disappointing, like hearing you were adopted and not really the ethnicity you thought you were. By available paper trail my surname line is in Sicily back to the 1700s. I was hoping for deeper roots in Italy.

Nothing against Scotland, I think it's better than a lot of alternatives.

What have other Sicilian males in this forum found for ancient origins of their Y DNA halopgroup? Has anyone found deeper roots closer to Sicily? Or, is what I've found the common result?
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darkerhorse wrote: 18 Jul 2021, 20:08 My Y haplogroup appears to have made it's way from Eurasia to Scotland in ancient times.

Being full-Sicilian on my parental side it was disappointing, like hearing you were adopted and not really the ethnicity you thought you were. By available paper trail my surname line is in Sicily back to the 1700s. I was hoping for deeper roots in Italy.
Since Y-DNA is a strictly male line, then either the Sicilian surname was "Italianized" from the Scottish, or a 'new' surname was adopted based on appearance, ie: (Barbarossa, 'redbeard'; Biondo, 'blonde'), faculty (Marinaio, 'sailor'; Soldato 'soldier') or ethnicity (Scozzese, 'Scot'), etc.

I have to assume no foundling names such as Trovato, Esposito or Proietti...

Do any of these apply to your paternal surname..?
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No. It's a patronymic surname

If the Scottish origin is accurate, then my guess is that they probably left Scotland and entered Sicily well before surnames were first in use, which I think was around the 15th century.
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I should have said entered Italy, as they might have come to Sicily after residing in the southern mainland. Just a possibility, no evidence.

I wonder if anyone uses a psychic to divine ethnic origins or family histories.
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darkerhorse wrote: 19 Jul 2021, 02:11 No. It's a patronymic surname

If the Scottish origin is accurate, then my guess is that they probably left Scotland and entered Sicily well before surnames were first in use, which I think was around the 15th century.
Makes sense then. I was using your reference to the 18th century as a guide...
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I assume the surname was invented in Italy.
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