Ethnicity vs. skin tone

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Are French-Canadians known for olive skin? if yes, how can you tell French from Italian skin?
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darkerhorse wrote: 24 Jul 2021, 21:14 Are French-Canadians known for olive skin? if yes, how can you tell French from Italian skin?
French Canadians I don't know. I only personally know one and he is light-skinned.

For the French I suppose it depends on location. Southern France borders on Spain & southeastern France on Italy. In those areas possibly (or at least to a minor extent). In the parts that border Germany or Belgium, I would think not so much.

I don't think I've even known anyone from France that was olive. At least not that I remember.

Just checked DNA matches -- 2 more (of 2) paternal matches with traces of Italian ancestry. But not on their trees...
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If you search passenger lists on Ancestry.com for "olive complexion" exact, and scroll down the results you'll see a variety of descriptions under Ethnicity/Nationality.

Portuguese seems to be prevalent.

It shows you the range of other possibilities, Italian matches aside.

Of course, each culture may have it's own definition of "olive" and different practices for coding complexions.

In Italy, "natural" seems to be the default category and could mean anything, as I explore under another topic.
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darkerhorse wrote: 25 Jul 2021, 18:45 If you search passenger lists on Ancestry.com for "olive complexion" exact, and scroll down the results you'll see a variety of descriptions under Ethnicity/Nationality.

Portuguese seems to be prevalent.

It shows you the range of other possibilities, Italian matches aside.

Of course, each culture may have it's own definition of "olive" and different practices for coding complexions.

In Italy, "natural" seems to be the default category and could mean anything, as I explore under another topic.
I'm sure there are different shades or "gradients" of olive based on ethnicity.

Since both the matrices and chromosomes indicate Italian (and not Iberian or Middle-Eastern), as well as DNA matches that show a preponderance of Italian traces as opposed to anything else, it only makes sense to go with that as a basis for the olive tones on my father's side. If there was another prevalent olive-toned ethnicity, it would be another story.

Finding it (at least as far as documentation goes) is another subject entirely...
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I found another test for olive skin is not blushing.
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My cheeks don't blush.
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darkerhorse wrote: 29 Jul 2021, 19:48 My cheeks don't blush.
Mine don't either. Neither did either of my parents.
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I found this old family photo taken at Christmas.

Based on your analysis of features and skin color, what do you think their ancestry mix might be?
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darkerhorse wrote: 29 Jul 2021, 21:33 I found this old family photo taken at Christmas.

Based on your analysis of features and skin color, what do you think their ancestry mix might be?
That's a good one. Definitely mixed ancestry. A couple look pretty pale -- they probably need to get out into the sun a little more... :P
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I'd say Irish, French, Italian, Jewish, English, and Japanese.
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darkerhorse wrote: 30 Jul 2021, 00:17 I'd say Irish, French, Italian, Jewish, English, and Japanese.
And with a bountiful sense of humor... :)

Oh, wait -- that has nothing to do with skin tone -- or does it..? :lol:
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