Help finding "Morganell" in Illinios and Minnesota
Help finding "Morganell" in Illinios and Minnesota
I have a relative who was born in Connecticut under the name Antonio/Anthony MORGANELLI. however, at some point in his life, I think it was his early 20s, he left Conn due to "legal reasons" and went west changing his surname to MORGANELL to avoid capture by local authorities.
I have located him in a 1930 census for Cook County Illinios living at 342 West Chicago Ave (line 37-39) with his wife Edith and daughter Charlaine. I know for a fact this is him.
I can not locate them in any other census in Illinois prior or after this year.
His wife's parents were from Norway (which we knew). However, what we did not know is that Edith and Charlaine were born in Minnesota.
I do not know Edith's maiden name, but I do know she worked as a telegraph operator in Illinois. Whether she did that as well in Minnesota I do not know.
Anthony was born in Connecticut in April 1982 and died in Illinois March 1966.
Edith was born in Minnesota in 1902.
Charlaine was born in Minnesota 1923.
So, my request is, can anyone have better luck than I can in finding these people? I no longer have access to ancestry.com due to cost reasons or I would try and look more there myself.
Thank you!
I have located him in a 1930 census for Cook County Illinios living at 342 West Chicago Ave (line 37-39) with his wife Edith and daughter Charlaine. I know for a fact this is him.
I can not locate them in any other census in Illinois prior or after this year.
His wife's parents were from Norway (which we knew). However, what we did not know is that Edith and Charlaine were born in Minnesota.
I do not know Edith's maiden name, but I do know she worked as a telegraph operator in Illinois. Whether she did that as well in Minnesota I do not know.
Anthony was born in Connecticut in April 1982 and died in Illinois March 1966.
Edith was born in Minnesota in 1902.
Charlaine was born in Minnesota 1923.
So, my request is, can anyone have better luck than I can in finding these people? I no longer have access to ancestry.com due to cost reasons or I would try and look more there myself.
Thank you!
Always looking for info on: Gallo, Perillo, Stelatto, Morganelli, Cutarelli, Aniello/Aiello, Langella, Garitta/Aritta, Hayward, Nicolson & will be happy to swap info too!
Re: Help finding "Morganell" in Illinios and Minne
Census information is not yet available for 1940 online, but will be at some point in time.......
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Re: Help finding "Morganell" in Illinios and Minne
Have you seen this record of marriage?
HOLMES, ROBERT MAE Marriage 2381093 12/9/1955
MORGANELL, CHARLAINE Marriage 2381093 12/9/1955
actual record request can be sent here:
Cook County Genealogy
wldspirit
HOLMES, ROBERT MAE Marriage 2381093 12/9/1955
MORGANELL, CHARLAINE Marriage 2381093 12/9/1955
actual record request can be sent here:
Cook County Genealogy
wldspirit
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"Cambiano i suonatori ma la musica è sempre quella."
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Re: Help finding "Morganell" in Illinios and Minne
NO!!!! I have not seen record of that marriage!!!! Oh how friggin' exciting!!! thank you for finding that!!!!
Always looking for info on: Gallo, Perillo, Stelatto, Morganelli, Cutarelli, Aniello/Aiello, Langella, Garitta/Aritta, Hayward, Nicolson & will be happy to swap info too!
Re: Help finding "Morganell" in Illinios and Minne
For reference:
1930 census
Possible WWI Draft Card
Name: Anthony Morganelle
City: Not Stated
County: Kane
State: Illinois
Birthplace: Derby, Connecticut
Birth Date: 13 Apr 1892
Biff
1930 census
Possible WWI Draft Card
Name: Anthony Morganelle
City: Not Stated
County: Kane
State: Illinois
Birthplace: Derby, Connecticut
Birth Date: 13 Apr 1892
Biff
"Mintammicce impizzu mpizzu ca pue largu minne fazzu sule!"
Re: Help finding "Morganell" in Illinios and Minne
*clap*
Yes that is him! I have that actually.
Where I am stumped is;
When did Edith and Anthony get married?
Did they have any other children besides Charlaine?
When did Edith die?
Where did Anthony live when he first went to Minnesota?
I just found out Edith's maiden name was: BERG. Her mother's maiden name was: DAHLIN.
Having trouble creating an account to eh Cook County genealogy site..server issues. Will try again tomorrow. Although I did manage to find the MN state Archives which gave me a few actual birth dates and Edith's maiden name.
Yes that is him! I have that actually.
Where I am stumped is;
When did Edith and Anthony get married?
Did they have any other children besides Charlaine?
When did Edith die?
Where did Anthony live when he first went to Minnesota?
I just found out Edith's maiden name was: BERG. Her mother's maiden name was: DAHLIN.
Having trouble creating an account to eh Cook County genealogy site..server issues. Will try again tomorrow. Although I did manage to find the MN state Archives which gave me a few actual birth dates and Edith's maiden name.
Always looking for info on: Gallo, Perillo, Stelatto, Morganelli, Cutarelli, Aniello/Aiello, Langella, Garitta/Aritta, Hayward, Nicolson & will be happy to swap info too!
Re: Help finding "Morganell" in Illinios and Minne
According to the 1930 census, Edith states her age as 20 when she and Anthony married, so date of marriage would be about 1922 which jives with approximate birth year of 1924 for Charlaine. All we can surmise is that sometime between June 1917, the date of his WWI Card, and about 1922, the date of his marriage, Anthony moved to Minnesota. He could have been in Illinois, Minnesota or another state in 1920.
For reference:
Minnesota Birth Records
Berg, Edith Amanda
Date of Birth: 29 Jan 1902
Mother Maiden Name: Dahlin
certid# 1902-31534
County of Birth: Hennepin
Morganell, Charlaine Sylvia
Date of Birth: 06 Sep 1923
Mother Maiden Name: Berg
certid# SV-94334
County of Birth: St. Louis
Social Security Death Index
Name: Charlaine M. Holmes
SSN: 335-18-xxxx
Last Residence: 60093 Winnetka, Cook, Illinois, United States of America
Born: 6 Sep 1923
Died: 4 Mar 2003
State (Year) SSN issued: Illinois (Before 1951
Biff
For reference:
Minnesota Birth Records
Berg, Edith Amanda
Date of Birth: 29 Jan 1902
Mother Maiden Name: Dahlin
certid# 1902-31534
County of Birth: Hennepin
Morganell, Charlaine Sylvia
Date of Birth: 06 Sep 1923
Mother Maiden Name: Berg
certid# SV-94334
County of Birth: St. Louis
Social Security Death Index
Name: Charlaine M. Holmes
SSN: 335-18-xxxx
Last Residence: 60093 Winnetka, Cook, Illinois, United States of America
Born: 6 Sep 1923
Died: 4 Mar 2003
State (Year) SSN issued: Illinois (Before 1951
Biff
"Mintammicce impizzu mpizzu ca pue largu minne fazzu sule!"
Re: Help finding "Morganell" in Illinios and Minne
Possible Minnesota Territorial and State Censuses, 1849-1905
Name: Edith Berg
Census Date: 9 Jun 1905
County: Hennepin
Locality: Minneapolis Ward 7
Birth Location: Minnesota
Gender: Female
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1902
Race: White
Father's Birth Location: Sweeden
Mother's Birth Location: Minnesota
Father: Charles
Mother: Minnie
Sister: Hazel
Biff
Name: Edith Berg
Census Date: 9 Jun 1905
County: Hennepin
Locality: Minneapolis Ward 7
Birth Location: Minnesota
Gender: Female
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1902
Race: White
Father's Birth Location: Sweeden
Mother's Birth Location: Minnesota
Father: Charles
Mother: Minnie
Sister: Hazel
Biff
"Mintammicce impizzu mpizzu ca pue largu minne fazzu sule!"
Re: Help finding "Morganell" in Illinios and Minne
1920 United States Federal Census
Name: Edith Berg
Home in 1920: Minneapolis Ward 12, Hennepin, Minnesota
Age: 18 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1902
Birthplace: Minnesota
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Father's Name: Charles
Father's Birth Place: Sweden
Mother's Name: Minnie
Mother's Birth Place: Minnesota
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Berg 47
Minnie Berg 46
Hazel Berg 22
Edith Berg 18
Gladys Berg 12
Lilian Berg 9
Bernice Berg 6
Lucille Berg 2 9/12
Biff
Name: Edith Berg
Home in 1920: Minneapolis Ward 12, Hennepin, Minnesota
Age: 18 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1902
Birthplace: Minnesota
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Father's Name: Charles
Father's Birth Place: Sweden
Mother's Name: Minnie
Mother's Birth Place: Minnesota
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Berg 47
Minnie Berg 46
Hazel Berg 22
Edith Berg 18
Gladys Berg 12
Lilian Berg 9
Bernice Berg 6
Lucille Berg 2 9/12
Biff
"Mintammicce impizzu mpizzu ca pue largu minne fazzu sule!"
Re: Help finding "Morganell" in Illinios and Minne
1910 United States Federal Census
Name: Edith Berg
Age in 1910: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899
Birthplace: Minnesota
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Father's Name: Charles
Father's Birth Place: Sweden
Mother's Name: Minnie
Mother's Birth Place: Sweden
Home in 1910: Minneapolis Ward 2, Hennepin, Minnesota
Wish it was so easy to find info on the elusive Anthony!
Biff
Name: Edith Berg
Age in 1910: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899
Birthplace: Minnesota
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Father's Name: Charles
Father's Birth Place: Sweden
Mother's Name: Minnie
Mother's Birth Place: Sweden
Home in 1910: Minneapolis Ward 2, Hennepin, Minnesota
Wish it was so easy to find info on the elusive Anthony!
Biff
"Mintammicce impizzu mpizzu ca pue largu minne fazzu sule!"
Re: Help finding "Morganell" in Illinios and Minne
I didn't notice it before but on the 1930 census Anthony states he was a veteran and served in WWI. So sometime after June 1917 he was either drafted or enlisted in the military. Because he was a native born veteran, he did not have to register during WWII.
Biff
Biff
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Re: Help finding "Morganell" in Illinios and Minne
Wondering if it is possible that Antonio/Anthony had family in Cook county....there are a number of MORGANELLI listed in this area,
they can be found at the Cook county site or the Illinois State Databases:
Illinois State Database
wldspirit
they can be found at the Cook county site or the Illinois State Databases:
Illinois State Database
wldspirit
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"Cambiano i suonatori ma la musica è sempre quella."
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Re: Help finding "Morganell" in Illinios and Minne
Edith's date of death:
WOLFF, EDITH A.
Date of Birth: 29 Jan 1902
Place of Birth: MINNESOTA
Mother Maiden Name: DAHLIN
certid# 1995-MN-015587
Date of Death: 22 May 1995
County of Death: CROW WING
Evidently she remarried.....
wldspirit
WOLFF, EDITH A.
Date of Birth: 29 Jan 1902
Place of Birth: MINNESOTA
Mother Maiden Name: DAHLIN
certid# 1995-MN-015587
Date of Death: 22 May 1995
County of Death: CROW WING
Evidently she remarried.....
wldspirit
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"Cambiano i suonatori ma la musica è sempre quella."
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Re: Help finding "Morganell" in Illinios and Minne
Hey, Lee !
Great work on locating Edith's death record!!
Here's the SSDI Record:
Name: Edith A. Wolfe
SSN: 472-22-xxxx
Last Residence: 56468 Nisswa, Crow Wing, Minnesota, United States of America
Born: 29 Jan 1902
Died: May 1995
State (Year) SSN issued: Minnesota* (Before 1951)
*If Edith joined Social Security when it started in 1937, she did so back in Minnesota.
Biff
Great work on locating Edith's death record!!
Here's the SSDI Record:
Name: Edith A. Wolfe
SSN: 472-22-xxxx
Last Residence: 56468 Nisswa, Crow Wing, Minnesota, United States of America
Born: 29 Jan 1902
Died: May 1995
State (Year) SSN issued: Minnesota* (Before 1951)
*If Edith joined Social Security when it started in 1937, she did so back in Minnesota.
Biff
"Mintammicce impizzu mpizzu ca pue largu minne fazzu sule!"
Re: Help finding "Morganell" in Illinios and Minne
Thank you!
Lee
Lee
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"Cambiano i suonatori ma la musica è sempre quella."
"Cambiano i suonatori ma la musica è sempre quella."