FIATO / DILALLO / D'AMATO / AMATO in Bellona

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Re: FIATO / DILALLO / D'AMATO / AMATO in Bellona

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Klynh wrote:
Thank you for the link on the towns/villages near Bellona. I just took a look at the SSN record again and it clearly says Villa Volturno. The date of birth matches as does his father's name so I am sure it is him........ it is strange though.

I hope another volunteer can shed some light on this.
I'm stumped.


I also noted while looking at ship manifests that married females seem to use their maiden name.......... is that typical? I noticed this most with my Italian lines...... not so much with my Dad's English lines.

Yes, in Italy women keep their father's surnames. Usually they wouldn't pick up their husband's name until they arrived in the US.
Most of the time you'll find women on manifests under their father's surname.
Sometimes if they travel with their husbands they'll be listed as 'wife' with no surname.
Children on manifests, if they travel with their mother, often have their father's surname listed or added later.
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Another note on names
Not sure if you’re familiar with traditional Italian naming customs?
From this website:
http://italiangenealogy.tardio.com/inde ... cle&sid=22
There has been a strong custom in Italy that determines how children are named:

The first male is named after his paternal grandfather.
The second male is named after his maternal grandfather.
The first female is named after her paternal grandmother.
The second female is named after her maternal grandmother.
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Re: FIATO / DILALLO / D'AMATO / AMATO in Bellona

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Natale D’Amato & Mary Bove

Note: Mary Bove may be listed twice?
Once as a daughter, once as married to Natale Amato
There should be 7 Bove children total…


1910 census

Home in 1910:
605 Lenora? Street, owns house without a mortgage
Pittsburgh Ward 12, Allegheny, Pennsylvania

Head Gaetano Bove 47, abt 1863 IT
- married 21 yrs, abt 1889
- immig 1896, Al
- stone mason, buildings
Wife Mary Bove 44, abt 1866 IT
- 10 children born, 7 children living
- immig 1898

Son John Bove 18, abt 1892 IT
- immig 1898
Son Frank Bove 8, abt 1902 PA
Son Ralph Bove 6, abt 1904 PA

Daughter Mary Bove 20, abt 1890 IT
- married
- 1 child
- immig 1898
Daughter Jeanette Bove 14, abt 1896 IT
Daughter Josephine Bove 4, abt 1906 PA
Daughter Filamema Bove 3, abt 1907 PA

Boarder Tony Ciona 25, abt 1885 IT
- immig 1905

Boarder (Husband) Natale Amato 22, abt 1888 IT
- married 1 yr, abt 1909
- immig 1903
- stone cutter, building
Boarder (Wife) Mary Amato 20, abt 1890 IT
- 1 child
- immig 1899
Boarder Mary Amato 7/12, abt 1909 PA

Boarder August Amato 19, abt 1891 IT
- immig 1905
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One of my favorite Pittsburgh links (the search feature takes some getting used to)
http://www.evendon.net/PGHLookups/HomePage.shtml
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Natale D’Amato
7 Feb 1887

Draft Registration Cards

1917
1942
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Natale D’Amato & Mary Bove

1920 census
page 2

Home in 1920:
613 Lowell Street
Pittsburgh Ward 12, Allegheny, Pennsylvania

Natale Amato 32
Mary Amato 29
Mary Amato 10
Adeline Amato 8
Clementine Amato 5
Ralph Amato 2
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1930 census

Home in 1930:
613 Lowell Street
Pittsburgh, Allegheny, Pennsylvania

Nathale Donato 43
Mary Donato 40
Mary H Donato 21
Adaline Donato 19
Clementine Donato 16
Ralph Donato 13
Guy Donato 8
Gloria Donato 4 1/12
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Hi Valerie,

Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!! WOW!! I am amazed and excited too!! I so appreciate your help. You have no idea how much!! I can't wait to show all of this to my mom.

I am going to check out the Pittsburgh site tonight.... are you researching in the Pittsburgh area as well? What are your SURNAMES?

Do you think I should post the Bellona/Villa Volturno question in a new post?

Regarding females keeping their father's name.......does that hold true in the records I willl be looking at from LDS?

Thank you again Valerie.
Kelly
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Clementina D’Amato & Pasquale Spano

1930 census

Home in 1930:
54 Everett Street
Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts

Pasquale Spano 52
Clementina Spano 48
John Spano 18
Frank Spano 16
Mary Spano 10
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Pasquale’s Draft Registration Card

1942
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Klynh wrote:Hi Valerie,

Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!! WOW!! I am amazed and excited too!! I so appreciate your help. You have no idea how much!! I can't wait to show all of this to my mom.

You're very welcome!
It's pretty neat when you can share :D


I am going to check out the Pittsburgh site tonight.... are you researching in the Pittsburgh area as well?

No, but I have helped out some folks who had relatives in Pittsburgh.
We were even lucky enough to find a high school yearbook picture
8O

What are your SURNAMES?

My family names are Pagliaro and Gatto from Donnici Inferiore & Rogliano Cosenza.

Do you think I should post the Bellona/Villa Volturno question in a new post?

Yes, I would also add the link to this post (just copy & paste the address)

Regarding females keeping their father's name.......does that hold true in the records I willl be looking at from LDS?

Yes :D . Much easier than US records!

Thank you again Valerie.

Kelly
We're all always happy to help :D .
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Hi Valerie!!

You are the best!!! I once again can't even begin to thank you enough. I can't wait to go back and read through all of the information you have sent to me WOW!!

Have a great evening
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Assunta Fiato & Angelo Giobbi

Assunta’s ship manifest

1910 manifest
page 2

10 Feb 1910 SS Cedric, Naples to NY
Line 10
Assunta Fiata 16 (abt 1893)
- single
- possible naturalization notation
- last residence Bellona
- in Bellona, father Stefano
- destination Albany NY
- joining brother Giovanni? at 19 Fulton Street
- born in Bellona
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Angelo’s Miltary Draft Registration

1917

Angello Giobbi 30
264 Fore, Portland
Born 6 Jun 1886 in Rome
Alien
Mason
Wife & 3 children
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1920 census

Home in 1920:
17 Chatham Street, rents
Portland Ward 3, Cumberland, Maine

Head Angelo Jobber 34, abt 1886 IT
- immig 1905, Pa (filed 1st papers for naturalization)
- hod carrier, construction
Wife Assunta Jobber 27, abt 1893 IT
- immig 1909
Son Carl Jobber 9, abt 1911 NY
Daughter Hannie (Fannie?) Jobber 7, abt 1913 NY
Daughter Mary Jobber 3 6/12, abt 1916 ME
Son Dominick Jobber 1 5/12, abt 1918 ME
---

1930 census
page 2

Home in 1930:
24 Chatham Street, owns $4000
Portland, Cumberland, Maine

Head Angello Jeabba 42, abt 1888 IT
- married age 25, abt 1911
- immig ?
- mason
Wife Assunda Jeabba 36, abt 1894 IT
- married age 18, abt 1911
- immig ?
Son Carla Jeabba 18, abt 1912 ME (NY?)
Daughter Mary Jeabba 14, abt 1916 ME
Son Dominic Teresi 12, abt 1918 ME
Son Fernando Teresi 9, abt 1921 ME
Daughter Lucy Teresi 6, abt 1924 ME
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Giuseppe Fiato
24 Apr 1888

1905 manifest

12 Apr 1905 SS Manuel Calvo, Naples to NY
Line 10
Giuseppe Fiata 16 (abt 1888)
- single
- last residence Bellona
- destination Albany NY
- joining brother Giovanni Fiata
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Wife Rosa De Tonato?? & daughter

1907 manifest
page 2

4 Oct 1907 SS Konigin Luise Naples to NY
Lines 14-5
Rosa De Tomato (De Tommaso?) 22, abt 1885
- last residence Bellona Caserta
- in Bellona, mother Giuseppa?? Angela
- destination Albany NY
- joining husband Giuseppe Fiata at 119 Madison Ave
- born in Bellona
Maria Fiata 1, abt 1906
- possible naturalization notation
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1917 WWI Draft Registration Card

Joseph Fiato 29
82 Madison? Ave, Albany
Alien
Born 24 Apr 1888 in Belloni (Bellona) Italy
Laborer at Thacher Wheel Car Co in North Albany
Wife & 5 children
Military Service: Private 18 mos in Italy
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1910 census

Home in 1910:
21 Monroe Street, rents
Albany Ward 12, Albany, New York

Head Guiseppe Fiato 24, abt 1886 IT
- married 5 yrs, abt 1905
- immig 1906, Na
- laborer
Wife Rosa Fiato 24, abt 1886 IT
- 2 children
- immig 1907
Daughter Giovannina Fiato 4, abt 1906 IT
Daughter Mary Fiato 2, abt 1908 NY
---

1920 census

Home in 1920:
49 Madison Ave
Albany Ward 5, Albany, New York

Head Joseph Frato 32, abt 1888 IT
- immig 1901, Al
- laborer, railroad
Wife Marie Frato 33, abt 1887 IT
- immig 1901

These children all born in NY
(note: per 1917 WWI Card, he had 5 children in June 1917)


Son Stephen Frato 8
Son Thomas Frato 7
Son Peter Frato 6
Son John Frato 5
Son Louis Frato 3
Daughter Leonardo Frato 2
Son Alphonse Frato 10/12
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1930 census

Home in 1930:
16 Trinity Place, owns $19,000
Albany, Albany, New York

Joseph Fiato 41
Mary Fiato 43
Steve Fiato 18
Thomas Fiato 17
Peter Fiato 16
Angeline Fiato 13
Louie Fiato 12
Alphonse Fiato 11
Catherine Fiato 10
Joseph Fiato 7
Salvatore Fiato 6
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Giovanni Fiato
25 Nov 1876

1902 manifest

23 May 1902 SS Balilla, Naples to NY
Lines 11-12

Giovanni Fiata 26, abt 1875
- last residence Bellona
- destination NY NY
- joining uncle Di Lello at White Plains Ave (Staten Island?)
Wife Filomena 20, abt 1881
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1909 manifest
page 2

12 Mar 1909 SS Neckar, Naples to NY
Line 11
Giovanni Fiato 32 (abt 1876)
- married
- non immigrant alien
- in Bellona Philomena ???
- destination Albany
- in US before in PA? & Albany
- joining Giovanni ?? At 61 Grand Ave
- born in Bellona
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Wife Filomena Sorrentino & children

1909 manifest
page 2

22 Jun 1909 SS Cretic, Naples to NY
Lines 2-4
Filomena Sorrentino 29, abt 1880
- last residence Bellona
- in Bellona, father Francesco
- destination Albany
- in US 6 yrs until 1907 NY
- joining husband Giovanni Fiata
- born in Bellona
Son Stefano Fiata 6, abt 1903
- claims US born
Daughter Gaetana Fiata 3, abt 1906
- claims US born
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1918 WWI Draft Registration Card

Giovanni Fiato 42
75 Madison Ave, Albany
Born 25 Nov 1876 in Italy
Laborer for City Dept
Philomea Fioto at same address
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1910 census

Home in 1910:
20 Van Zandt Street
Albany Ward 5, Albany, New York

Head John Fiato 33, abt 1877 IT
- married 9 yrs, abt 1901
- immig 1889?, Na
- laborer
Wife Alomena Fiato 30, abt 1880 IT
- 3 children born, 2 children living
Son Stfano Fiato 7, abt 1903 NY
Son Thomas Fiato 4, abt 1906 NY
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1920 census

Home in 1920:
75 Madison Ave
Albany Ward 5, Albany, New York

Head John Fratto 43, abt 1877 IT
- immig 1891, Al
- laborer, public road
Wife Philomena Fratto 41, abt 1879 IT
- immig 1891
Son Stephens Fratto 17, abt 1903 NY
Son Francis Fratto 9, abt 1911 NY
Son Floria Fratto 7, abt 1913 NY
Daughter Josephina Fratto 3, abt 1917 NY
Daughter Carrnella Fratto 9/12, abt 1919 NY

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1930 census

Home in 1930:
14 Wilbur Street
Albany, Albany, New York

Head John Fiato 53, abt 1877 IT
- married age 25, abt 1902
- immig 1897, Na
- laborer
Wife Philomena Fiato 50, abt 1880 IT
- immig 1912, Al
Son Frank Fiato 19, abt 1911 NY
Son Felix Fiato 16, abt 1914 NY
Daughter Josephina Fiato 13, abt 1917 NY
Daughter Palma Fiato 10, abt 1920 NY
Daughter Margret Fiato 7, abt 1923 NY

Son Stefano next door at #16?
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Hi Valerie,

I have said this before, but you are amazing. I so appreciate all of your help. I can't help but smile. You are the best.

When I was reading through some of the info you sent regarding Assunta and Angelo GIOBBI...on the 1930 census it lists 2 of their children with the last name JEABBA (GIOBBI) but the other 3 it list them as TERESI.... but the 1920 census listec them all as GIOBBI......any thoughts?
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Hi Val,

I am a little confused............ are Guseppe and Joseph twins? (same birth date) I thought at first they were the same person but they have different wives...........

Thank you
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Klynh wrote: When I was reading through some of the info you sent regarding Assunta and Angelo GIOBBI...on the 1930 census it lists 2 of their children with the last name JEABBA (GIOBBI) but the other 3 it list them as TERESI.... but the 1920 census listec them all as GIOBBI......any thoughts?
I'm guessing the census enumerator 'sounded out' their names.
Information really depended upon the person giving the information, their ability to make themselves understood, and whether or not the enumerator was diligent..
The 1930 transcription seems to be off a bit (try 'J' in place of 'T') - the childrens' names should have been transcribed the same as their parents.

Valarie :wink:
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Klynh wrote:Hi Val,

I am a little confused............ are Guseppe and Joseph twins? (same birth date) I thought at first they were the same person but they have different wives...........

Thank you
Kelly
Hey Kelly :D
My opinion
Giuseppe and Joseph are the same person.
I don't think he remarried.
I'm guessing that Rosa's name was Maria Rosa or Rosa Maria.
It does happen frequently on census records that folks either decide to be called by another name or the person giving the information decides to use a formal name rather than a nickname.
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