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Re: new to this, but still want help

Post by Violam » 27 Jun 2010, 18:58

Oh wow! Cool..ok, another question..can't figure out how to get to THIS page from my home page...also, I would like to make copies of the two things u sent me..but all it is doing is making me copies of the other guys..lol like where is that 'book' its in and can I write them and ask for copies..??
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Re: new to this, but still want help

Post by vj » 28 Jun 2010, 19:29

Here are the three passport pages that suanj found
These should be the size that you can print
On many computers you can right mouse click on the image and save it to your computer
('save picture as')

page 1
http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/8016/46324000.jpg
page 2
http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/2306/43621470.jpg
page 3
http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/531/74010277.jpg

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Re: new to this, but still want help

Post by Violam » 12 Jul 2010, 18:31

Can ship records etc. be found on this Frank A Mancini..We know he was an untaker but also on hi letter head is, forgien exchange Steamship agency..can we find more on this? What line it was etc..when he came over and where in Italy he is from and what ship my grand parents took for this trip they needed the passport for and how can I get the info on the first passport they needed...was it normal for two people to be in one picture didn't they each need to have their own passport?..so may unturned stones..thank u for ur time:-)
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Re: new to this, but still want help

Post by vj » 12 Jul 2010, 22:21

Here you go :D !

Frank A Mancini
born abt 1888 in Italy
immig abt 1912
naturalized citizen abt 1919

1920 census
http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/963/1920.jpg
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There aren't any ship manifests for ships leaving the US, only arriving
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Yes, it was normal on a passport application to list information and have a picture for both people.
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1st passport?
Do you mean to leave Italy?
That is not an easy document to track down in Italy (if the record still exists).

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Re: new to this, but still want help

Post by Violam » 12 Jul 2010, 23:10

Um I am guessing passprt. Didn't know what kind of papers 'they' needed to leave for Italy..is there any info or how to find out about this Mancini's ship line? Thank you, this is another good find.
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Post by Violam » 12 Jul 2010, 23:15

Do I write to N.Y. to get a copy of this census?
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Post by vj » 12 Jul 2010, 23:28

Violam wrote:Do I write to N.Y. to get a copy of this census?
I can make it smaller if you want to print it
1920 census
http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/4176/1920b.jpg
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Frank A Mancini
1918 WWI Draft Registration Card
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/4282/1917p.jpg
147 Fourth Street (same as 1920 census)
born 13 Aug 1886 in Pietramelara
(comune of Pietramelara, province Caserta, region Campania)
Still only listed as a self-employed undertaker
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1932 Troy Directory
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/6262/1932g.jpg
118 Fourteenth Street
Mancini Inc ticket agcy
Mancini Frank A undtkr

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Re: new to this, but still want help

Post by Violam » 12 Jul 2010, 23:47

Thank u so much. I copied it but its too small to read..do I just write to the census buearo? This is all very interesting..have you seen the paper I am talking about the steamship agency on here? So it looks like he was an undertaker in Italy too, huh? thank you vj.
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Post by Violam » 12 Jul 2010, 23:51

I wonder, did he work out of his home?
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Re: new to this, but still want help

Post by vj » 13 Jul 2010, 15:41

Violam wrote:... I copied it but its too small to read..do I just write to the census buearo?...
This article has information on who to call/write for census copies
http://www.census.gov/prod/2000pubs/cff-2.pdf
Sales. Microfilmed copies of census schedules, 1790–1930, and Soundex indexes, 1880–1930, can be purchased from the Customer Service Center (NWCC2), College Park, MD 20740;
301-837-2000 or 1-866-272-6272. The office has catalogs, prices, and ordering
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Re: new to this, but still want help

Post by Violam » 13 Jul 2010, 16:36

Thanx again vj:-)
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Post by Violam » 13 Jul 2010, 16:44

That article is veryyyyy interesting. I just made copies to add to my files.
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Re: new to this, but still want help

Post by vj » 14 Jul 2010, 14:23

MARCHESE

Here is a possible ship manifest

Angelo (Charles) Marchese and sister Anna?

possible 1904 Boston manifest
http://a.imageshack.us/img806/707/1904.jpg

4 April 1904, SS Romanic, Naples to Boston
line 28

Angelo Marchese 16, abt 1888
- single
- last residence Cervinara (province of Avellino, Campania)
- destination Rutland, VT
- joining brother-in-law (probably the brother of his sister's husband) Francesco Esposito in Rutland

traveling from Cervinara with Angelo's sister(?) Anna and her husband
lines 25-26

Luigi Esposito 32, abt 1872
- joining brother Francesco Esposito at 36 Meadow St, Rutland VT
wife Anna Marchese 21, abt 1883
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info from ancestry. com
About Boston Passenger Lists, 1820-1943

This database is an index to the passenger lists of ships arriving from foreign ports at the port of Boston, Massachusetts from 1820-1943.
The names found in the index are linked to actual images of the passenger lists, digitized from National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) microfilm series, T843 (rolls 1-454) and M277 (rolls 1-115).

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Re: new to this, but still want help

Post by vj » 14 Jul 2010, 15:27

MARCHESE

more brothers?

possible 1910 census
http://a.imageshack.us/img69/5570/1910j.jpg

Home in 1910:
73 Hill Street
Troy Ward 8, Rensselaer, New York

head Michele Marchesi 28, abt 1882 IT
- married 5 yrs, abt 1905
- immig 1906, Al (alien)
- laborer, road work
wife Josephine Marchesi 29
son John Marchesi 4
daughter Stella Marchesi 2
brother Angela (Angelo) Marchesi 19, abt 1891 IT
- single
- immig 1903, Al
- laborer, road work
brother-in-law Joseph Cioffi 18
boarders
Rocco Armeli 44
Andres Armeli 38
Frank Armeli 41

brother or cousin?

head Frank Marchesi 26, abt 1884 IT
- married 3yrs, abt 1907
- immig 1907, Al
- laborer, road work
wife Angela Marchesi 22
brother-in-law Amedeo Maddaloni 16
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A few notes about census records:

Everything really depended upon the person giving the information
- who gave the information to the enumerator, could be anyone in the family or even a neighbor
- how much they knew
- whether or not they could make themselves understood (was a problem for recent immigrants)
Also a lot depended upon the enumerator doing a good job
In other words, don’t worry too much about dates and how names were spelled
Questions that the enumerator asked were different every year
Relationships are all to the ‘head’ of the household
Last year available is 1930, 1940 will be out in 2012


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