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Tessa78 wrote:Super finds suanj!!!

Knew you would find that "needle in a haystack"!
Especially those misspelled names... the 1892 Census has them listed as "Mardicia" 8O

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Yes Tessa, the surname in 1892 is wrote Mardicia, but is Narducci...
I believe that is a bit hard for US people to spell "Narducci" in italian language :D
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WOW
Absolutely amazing and excellent finds, suanj! :D

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Thanks Biff, I believe, also, that Anthony J Narducci surely was born in Buffalo, in june of 1892 or 1893 .. but in Buffalo ..surely... bye,
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I can't begin to express my gratitude for the effort put forth on this research. If they are from the region previously mentioned in Italy, on what level do I further my research? As far as Pepina(Josephine) Giallella, where do I search if there is no record found on her immigration?
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danielle1118 wrote:As far as Pepina(Josephine) Giallella, where do I search if there is no record found on her immigration?
Again my sincere thanks!
Based on some research I did on the following site relative to the surnames Giallella, Ricigliano and Di Giacomo, there's a decent chance that Josephine was from San Fele in the province of Potenza where all three surnames are present.

http://basilicata.indettaglio.it/ita/mo ... gnomi.html

Suanj, do you think that San Fele is a good possibility?

Here's a site on San Fele Genealogy which might help if you want to pursue that possible connection.
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~itacsnf/index.html

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Biff, my suggestion also is that the Giallellas coming from San Fele... but needing of some other sure infos, before that Danielle start the search in italian civil records:
by LDS microfilms:
Registri dello stato civile di San Fele (Potenza), 1810-1860 San Fele (Potenza). Ufficio dello stato civile
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library ... umns=*,0,0
so Giuseppa/Giuseppina Giallella ( Josephine) birth is not in ...

but is possible to write in San Fele Commune asking the birth certificate of Giuseppina Giallella born abt in 1870, daughter of Giuseppe and Anna Maria Ricigliano..
.................

for Narducci the Santa Maria del Molise ( currently in Isernia province, in the past in Campobasso province) the LDS microfilms are no available ...
however the Isernia archive have the civil records for Santa Maria del Molise from 1809 to 1865, so if he born really in this place, as I think, it is possible to ask a photocopy of Giuseppe Narducci birth act ( born abt in 1855-1858, son of Giovanni and Anna Maria Bertone); civil records in Isernia archive:
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STATO CIVILE
A t t i d e l l o s t a t o c i v i l e , fasci 1.274 (1809-1865). Elenco di versamento
1974.
Comprende fasci 190 dei nati, 720 dei matrimoni, e 337 dei morti. Gli atti si riferiscono
alle località di: Acquaviva d’Isernia, Agnone, Bagnoli del Trigno, Belmonte
del Sannio, Caccavone (Poggio Sannita), Cameli (Sant’Elena Sannita), Cantalupo
nel Sannio, Capracotta, Carovilli, Carpinone, Castel del Giudice, Castellone (Castellone
al Volturno) l, Castelluccio Val Cocchiara 2, Castelnuovo 3, Castelpetroso,
Castelpizzuto, Cerasuolo 4, Cerro al Volturno, Chiauci, Civitanova del Sannio,
Colli a Volturno, Conca Casale, Filignano, Fornelli, Frosolone, Isernia, Longano,
Macchia d’Isernia, Macchiagodena, Miranda, Montaquila, Montenero Val Cocchiara,
Monteroduni, Pesche, Pescolanciano, Pescopennataro, Pettoranello di Molise
(Pettoranello del Molise), Pietrabbondante, Pizzone, Pozzilli, Rionero Sannitico,
Roccamandolfi, Roccapipirozzi 6, Roccaravindola 6, Roccasicura, Rocchetta a Volturno,
San Pietro Avellana, Sant’Agapito, Santa Maria Oliveto ‘, Sant’Angelo del
Pesco, Sant’Angelo in Grotte (Santa Maria del Molise), San Vincenzo al Volturno l,
Sessano (Sessano del Molise), Sesto Campano, Vastogirardi, Venafro.

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or writing in Santa Maria del Molise Commune...
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I recently found the death record for Josephine Narducci, and her surname on this record is Decillis. I also found the passenger record for a Giuseppe Decillis and A.M. Ricigliano. So I was incorrect on Giallella. Josephine's marriage in Buffalo to Joseph Narducci had her name spelled Giacillo which I thought was Giallella. I am having difficulty in determining what area in Italy this surname is predominant any thought or suggestions?

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Hi,
Josephine married on 25 Apr 1887 so if the immigration records that you found abt the parents arrived on 28 Jun 1888... it means that Josephine travelled alone....?
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I am not sure what to make of it either. Is it possible she came with a relative? Could she have came with the father and he went back for the mother? The names on the passenger list DiCillis/Ricigliano match her marriage and death certificate surnames. I don't know if I made a mistake somewhere. It's frustrating because I can't find a birth record in Buffalo, NY for Josephine's 3 children and I don't know how to validate this info
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surely this is a mystery; I found the Giuseppe De Cillis in 1892 Buffalo census, living with Tony DeCillis son and the Ricigliano family( spelled Richigliano)
Name: Jos Decillis
Event:
Event Date: 1892
Event Place: Buffalo, Ward 01, E.D. 01
Age: 50
Gender: Male
Birthplace: Italy
Estimated Birth Year: 1842
Alien or Citizen: Alien
Film Number: 0825692
Digital Folder Number: 004370007
Image Number: 00497
https://www.familysearch.org/search/ima ... 0007_00497

but seeming that the wife is not on the census; on 1900 census:
1900 United States Federal Census
about Joseph Decius Name: Joseph Decius
Home in 1900: Buffalo Ward 1, Erie, New York
[Erie, New York]
Age: 64
Birth Date: Dec 1835
Birthplace: Italy
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1889
Relationship to head-of-house: Father
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Spouse's Name: Angelina Decius
Marriage year: 1867
Marital Status: Married
Years married: 33
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Anthony Decius 24
Theresea Decius 19
Angelina Decius 1
Joseph Decius 64
Angelina Decius 54


the wife is on with Angeline first name; the son, Anthony De Cillis:
World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 about Anthony Decillis
Name: Anthony Decillis
City: Buffalo
County: Erie
State: New York
Birth Date: 25 Nov 1874
Race: White
FHL Roll Number: 1712239
DraftBoard: 14

well in 1900 census seeming imm. in 1894; and cannot be right, because he appearing in 1892 census, but in other census he declared that was immigrated in 1888:
1910 United States Federal Census about Anthony Desilas
Name: Anthony Desilas
Age in 1910: 35
Estimated Birth Year: 1875
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
[Self (Head)]
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Spouse's Name: Theresa Desilas
Home in 1910: Buffalo Ward 25, Erie, New York
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of immigration: 1888
Neighbors: View others on page

Household Members: Name Age
Anthony Desilas
35
Theresa Desilas
28
[29]
Angelene Desilas
10
Joseph Desilas
7
Rose Desilas
5
Jennie Desilas
2


in 1920 arrived in 1900:
1920 United States Federal Census
about Anthony Decillis Name: Anthony Decillis
Home in 1920: Buffalo Ward 26, Erie, New York
Age: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
[Head]
Spouse's Name: Theresa Decillis
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Own
Year of immigration: 1900
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Anthony Decillis 46
Theresa Decillis 35
Angelina Decillis 21
Joseph Decillis 17
Rose Decillis 15
Jennie Decillis 11
Carmela Decillis 9
Mary Decillis 6
Nicholus Decillis 4
[4 6/12]
Joseph Decillis 83 widowed

in 1930 he declared that was arrived in 1887, and he was naturalized:
1930 United States Federal Census
about Antony Decillis Name: Antony Decillis
Home in 1930: Buffalo, Erie, New York
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Age: 54
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Thresa Decillis
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military Service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Antony Decillis 54
Thresa Decillis 48
Joseph Decillis 27
Jean Decillis 22
Carmela Decillis 20
Marian Decillis 17
Nick Decillis 15


my idea is that Giuseppina travelled with Antonio De Cillis, if they was siblings, and after arrived also the parents; I know that Giuseppe De Cillis wife is Angelina on 1900 census, but who know ...?
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I think I might be able to shed some light on this (and also deepen the mystery a bit).

If you look at some of my posts, I came on the find out about my great great grandmother, who we originally thought was named Carmela DeCillis. Her family had connections to Buffalo.

Through INCREDIBLE work done here (and on my own), we were able to trace Carmela to a Carmela Lisbona, who arrived in 1896 with her (illegitimate) daughter, Mariantonia. In Connecticut records, we see her last name change over the course of her children's births from Lisbona to DeCillis.

From discussions with my grandmother 20 years ago, and confirmed by death certificate, we know that Carmela's parents names were Joseph (Giuseppe) and Angelina and that she was from "Santo Felo, Italy".

Then, there were stories in the family about family members coming over here and some returning to Italy and then returning again to the US.

Now, if we marry these stories together, we could possibly build a scenario.

I've looked in Buffalo for a record of a Giuseppe/Joseph DeCillis death, but got returned a negative result.
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