DeSimone and Barone Families from Napoli
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DeSimone and Barone Families from Napoli
Alberto DeSimone came here from Naples in January, 1905 at 19 yrs. with his mother, brother, sister and step brother (No names) to his Uncle Giordanno in New York, NY.
Alfansina (or Maria, depending) Barone came here in 1913 from a "small mountain town? possibly with her sisters. She married Albert (above) and died in 1930, also in NYC.
Albert was a barber at 32 Jones street and died in 1951 or 52.
I know it's not much but I have found so much of my family in this forum. Now I need to find another branch, though I think it not likely.
Alfansina (or Maria, depending) Barone came here in 1913 from a "small mountain town? possibly with her sisters. She married Albert (above) and died in 1930, also in NYC.
Albert was a barber at 32 Jones street and died in 1951 or 52.
I know it's not much but I have found so much of my family in this forum. Now I need to find another branch, though I think it not likely.
Re: DeSimone and Barone Families from Napoli
Welcome to the Forum!Psychoticprof wrote:...
Alfansina (or Maria, depending) Barone came here in 1913 from a "small mountain town? possibly with her sisters. She married Albert (above) and died in 1930, also in NYC.
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We'll be happy to see what we can do to help.
Is this your Alfonsina Barone?
Thank you, Valarie
from ancestry. com
1913 ship manifest
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Ship Name: Stampalia
Arrival Date: 14 May 1913
Port of Departure: Napoli
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
line 25
Name: Alfonsina Barme (Barone)
Birth Year: abt 1885, Age: 28
- single
- dressmaker
- last residence Circello ( province Benevento, region Campania)
- leaving father Francesco
- destination NY NY
- joining cousin Francesco Verrico
- not in US before
- born in New York(?)
detained page
http://imageshack.us/a/img829/5223/1913dp.jpg
15 May, met by cousin Angeline DeRi(?) 535 Spring St NYC
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If you don't already have this record, it should include their parent's names
1915 NYC Marriage Record
from the Italian Genealogical Group (IGG)
http://italiangen.org/
Barone Alfonsina Sep 20 1915 22770 (1915) Manhattan 1614226
DeSimone Alberto Sep 20 1915 22770 (1915) Manhattan 1614226
Link for ordering records
http://www.nyc.gov/html/records/html/vi ... iage.shtml
1915 NYC Marriage Record
from the Italian Genealogical Group (IGG)
http://italiangen.org/
Barone Alfonsina Sep 20 1915 22770 (1915) Manhattan 1614226
DeSimone Alberto Sep 20 1915 22770 (1915) Manhattan 1614226
Link for ordering records
http://www.nyc.gov/html/records/html/vi ... iage.shtml
Re: DeSimone and Barone Families from Napoli
for referencePsychoticprof wrote:Alberto DeSimone came here from Naples in January, 1905 at 19 yrs. with his mother, brother, sister and step brother (No names) to his Uncle Giordanno in New York, NY...
Is this Alberto DeSimone's 1905 NY Ship Manifest?
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27 Jan 1905
Ship Calabria
line 25
Alberto DeSimone 17, abt 1888
- single
- barber
- last residence Napoli
- destination NY
- joining uncle Girolamo D Agostino
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mother Maddalena D Agostino and children
1907 Ship Manifest
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Ship Name: Re D Italia
Arrival Date: 7 Dec 1907
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
lines 3-5
Maddalena Dagostino 50, abt 1857
- last residence Napoli
- leaving cousin Errico(?) DeLuca in Circello
- destination NY NY
- joining son Alberto De Simone
- born in Napoli
daughter Raffaella DeSimone 15, abt 1892
step son Giovanni Sirignano 9, abt 1898
1907 Ship Manifest
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Ship Name: Re D Italia
Arrival Date: 7 Dec 1907
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
lines 3-5
Maddalena Dagostino 50, abt 1857
- last residence Napoli
- leaving cousin Errico(?) DeLuca in Circello
- destination NY NY
- joining son Alberto De Simone
- born in Napoli
daughter Raffaella DeSimone 15, abt 1892
step son Giovanni Sirignano 9, abt 1898
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De Simone/D Agostino family in 1910
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Home in 1910:
Manhattan Ward 15, New York, New York
head Alberts Deromona 23, abt 1887
mother Madeline Deromona 53, abt 1857
- widow
- 10 children born, 4 living
brother Frank Deromona 21
brother John Deromona 14
sister Fannie Deromona 17
uncle Dorando Delucca 43
cousin Frank Delucca 18
cousin Annie Delucca 16
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Home in 1910:
Manhattan Ward 15, New York, New York
head Alberts Deromona 23, abt 1887
mother Madeline Deromona 53, abt 1857
- widow
- 10 children born, 4 living
brother Frank Deromona 21
brother John Deromona 14
sister Fannie Deromona 17
uncle Dorando Delucca 43
cousin Frank Delucca 18
cousin Annie Delucca 16
Re: DeSimone and Barone Families from Napoli
Great finds, vj!
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Re: DeSimone and Barone Families from Napoli
Thanks T !
Our poster gave us some great leads.
Wish his two comunes in Italy were online.
Valarie
Our poster gave us some great leads.
Wish his two comunes in Italy were online.
Valarie
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Re: DeSimone and Barone Families from Napoli
My God. So much info and so quickly. Vj, so many thanks. You've given me miles to cover.
I knew of the D'Agostino relations but never knew HOW. If you watch old movies, you'll see "Art Director: Albert S. D'Agostino" on both Republic and RKO movies. Couldn't understand why all the old Hollywood greats sent photos and greetings to my family when I was a child. No one could tell me more than that as they're all gone.
Thanks again. I look forward to communicating with you again.
A.J.
I knew of the D'Agostino relations but never knew HOW. If you watch old movies, you'll see "Art Director: Albert S. D'Agostino" on both Republic and RKO movies. Couldn't understand why all the old Hollywood greats sent photos and greetings to my family when I was a child. No one could tell me more than that as they're all gone.
Thanks again. I look forward to communicating with you again.
A.J.
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A J
I'm so glad we could help !
Ship manifests can be great sources for family relationships
(they're especially helpful since women keep their maiden names in Italy)
Thank you for the US background on your D Agostino branch
(since Albert S D Agostino was born in NY in 1892, he may have been Maddalena's nephew)
Do you need assistance with your US records; census, military, etc.
We can help if you don't have copies already.
Valarie
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Maddalena D Agostino and family (w/o Alberto) in 1920
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Home in 1920:
34 Morton Street
Manhattan Assembly District 1, New York, New York
head Frank A Desimone 29, abt 1891 IT
- single
- immig 1908, Pa (filed 1st papers for naturalization)
- store keeper, candies
mother Madeline Desimone 62, abt 1858 IT
- widowed
sister Fanny Desimone 26, abt 1894 IT
- machine op, dresses
half brother John Singurno 23, abt 1897 IT
- typist, merchandise
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John Sirignano 1918 WWI Draft Registration Card
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- lists his nearest relative as Maddalena Sirignano
- his father born in Avellino (Avellino, Campania)
John Sirignano
34 Morton Street
born 1 Jan 1897 in Naples
is a declarant (filed 1st papers)
works for Standard Aero Corp
I'm so glad we could help !
Ship manifests can be great sources for family relationships
(they're especially helpful since women keep their maiden names in Italy)
Thank you for the US background on your D Agostino branch
(since Albert S D Agostino was born in NY in 1892, he may have been Maddalena's nephew)
Do you need assistance with your US records; census, military, etc.
We can help if you don't have copies already.
Valarie
edit: added
Maddalena D Agostino and family (w/o Alberto) in 1920
http://imageshack.us/a/img834/7955/1920z.jpg
Home in 1920:
34 Morton Street
Manhattan Assembly District 1, New York, New York
head Frank A Desimone 29, abt 1891 IT
- single
- immig 1908, Pa (filed 1st papers for naturalization)
- store keeper, candies
mother Madeline Desimone 62, abt 1858 IT
- widowed
sister Fanny Desimone 26, abt 1894 IT
- machine op, dresses
half brother John Singurno 23, abt 1897 IT
- typist, merchandise
---
John Sirignano 1918 WWI Draft Registration Card
http://imageshack.us/a/img843/3021/1918h.jpg
- lists his nearest relative as Maddalena Sirignano
- his father born in Avellino (Avellino, Campania)
John Sirignano
34 Morton Street
born 1 Jan 1897 in Naples
is a declarant (filed 1st papers)
works for Standard Aero Corp
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Maddalena D Agostino and family
1915 New York Census
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Residence Place:
34 Morton Street
New York, New York
head Madalene Desmone 59, abt 1856 IT
son Albert Desmone 27, abt 1888 IT
son Frank Desmone 25, abt 1890 IT
daughter Fannie Desmone 22, abt 1893 IT
step son John Sirignano 18, abt 1897 IT
boarder Attilio Bartoni 22
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Maddalena D Agostino, son Frank and daughter Raffaella
- 34 Morton Street
- living with daughter Raffaella and her family
1925 New York Census
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head Felice Chiaravalle 49
wife Raffaele Chiaravalle 32
son Fortunato Chiaravalle 02
son Frank S Chiaravalle 01
mother-in-law Madeline Sirignano 48
brother-in-law Frank S Desimone 35
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probable 1927 Death Record
from the Italian Genealogical Group
Surname Given Name Age Month Day Year Certificate Number County Born FHL roll
number
Sirignatio Maddalena 65 y Oct 22 1927 23766 (1927) Manhattan 1861 - 1862 2048699
Her death certificate can be ordered, the family information it contains (parents, etc) will be as accurate as the informant's knowledge or memory
Link for ordering NYC Death Certificate
http://www.nyc.gov/html/records/html/vi ... eath.shtml
1915 New York Census
http://imageshack.us/a/img689/7729/1915m.jpg
Residence Place:
34 Morton Street
New York, New York
head Madalene Desmone 59, abt 1856 IT
son Albert Desmone 27, abt 1888 IT
son Frank Desmone 25, abt 1890 IT
daughter Fannie Desmone 22, abt 1893 IT
step son John Sirignano 18, abt 1897 IT
boarder Attilio Bartoni 22
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Maddalena D Agostino, son Frank and daughter Raffaella
- 34 Morton Street
- living with daughter Raffaella and her family
1925 New York Census
http://imageshack.us/a/img204/3139/1925s.jpg
head Felice Chiaravalle 49
wife Raffaele Chiaravalle 32
son Fortunato Chiaravalle 02
son Frank S Chiaravalle 01
mother-in-law Madeline Sirignano 48
brother-in-law Frank S Desimone 35
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probable 1927 Death Record
from the Italian Genealogical Group
Surname Given Name Age Month Day Year Certificate Number County Born FHL roll
number
Sirignatio Maddalena 65 y Oct 22 1927 23766 (1927) Manhattan 1861 - 1862 2048699
Her death certificate can be ordered, the family information it contains (parents, etc) will be as accurate as the informant's knowledge or memory
Link for ordering NYC Death Certificate
http://www.nyc.gov/html/records/html/vi ... eath.shtml
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Re: DeSimone and Barone Families from Napoli
HI. I'm somewhat new to this forum...and I guess I am tangentially related to some of you!
My grandfather was Giovanni Sirignano. I am curious if in your research you have found anything about Madaline DiSimone's husband, (Giovanni's father) who would be my great grandfather.
Thanks!
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My grandfather was Giovanni Sirignano. I am curious if in your research you have found anything about Madaline DiSimone's husband, (Giovanni's father) who would be my great grandfather.
Thanks!
- rita sirignano
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Re: DeSimone and Barone Families from Napoli
Hi! My name is Rita Sirignano and I am the granddaughter of Giovanni Sirignano. I am looking for information on my great grandfather, Giovanni's father, who was married to Maddalena DiSimone. Has anyone discovered any information about him while researching the DeSimone's? Any leads would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!
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Hi!
Head of family - Felice Chiaravalle 49 below is my great great grandfather. Do you have any information on him and where he was born/where I can find his birth certificate?
Best,
Kari
Head of family - Felice Chiaravalle 49 below is my great great grandfather. Do you have any information on him and where he was born/where I can find his birth certificate?
Best,
Kari
vj wrote: ↑03 Aug 2012, 21:15 Maddalena D Agostino and family
1915 New York Census
http://imageshack.us/a/img689/7729/1915m.jpg
Residence Place:
34 Morton Street
New York, New York
head Madalene Desmone 59, abt 1856 IT
son Albert Desmone 27, abt 1888 IT
son Frank Desmone 25, abt 1890 IT
daughter Fannie Desmone 22, abt 1893 IT
step son John Sirignano 18, abt 1897 IT
boarder Attilio Bartoni 22
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Maddalena D Agostino, son Frank and daughter Raffaella
- 34 Morton Street
- living with daughter Raffaella and her family
1925 New York Census
http://imageshack.us/a/img204/3139/1925s.jpg
head add Felice Chiaravalle 49
wife Raffaele Chiaravalle 32
son Fortunato Chiaravalle 02
son Frank S Chiaravalle 01
mother-in-law Madeline Sirignano 48
brother-in-law Frank S Desimone 35
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probable 1927 Death Record
from the Italian Genealogical Group
Surname Given Name Age Month Day Year Certificate Number County Born FHL roll
number
Sirignatio Maddalena 65 y Oct 22 1927 23766 (1927) Manhattan 1861 - 1862 2048699
Her death certificate can be ordered, the family information it contains (parents, etc) will be as accurate as the informant's knowledge or memory
Link for ordering NYC Death Certificate
http://www.nyc.gov/html/records/html/vi ... eath.shtml
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Here is the marriage of Felice Chiaravelle and Raffaela Desimone in 1922 in New York.
1639359 DeSimone Raffaela May 11 1922 #22198 Manhattan D255 Chiarovalle Felice
You can request a copy online for a fee. It should show Felice's parents' names and, maybe, his place of birth.
https://www1.nyc.gov/doittshoppingcart/ ... ficate.htm
Possible Social Security index listing
Name: Felice Chiaravalle
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birth Date: 7 Aug 1875
Birth Place: Reggio Calab, Italy
Father:
Antonio Chiaravalle
Mother:
Francesca Crucitti
SSN: 124018925
Notes: Jun 1937: Name listed as FELICE CHIARAVALLE
Naturalization record. (declaration of Intent)
Same birth date as above. Wife is Raffaela.
https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/co ... Id=6629025
Felice Chiaravalle
in the New York, U.S., State and Federal Naturalization Records, 1794-1943
Name: Felice Chiaravalle
[Felice Charavelle]
Gender: Male
Declaration Age: 56
Record Type: Declaration
Birth Date: 7 Aug 1875
Birth Place: Calabria Italy
Arrival Date: 10 Jul 1907
Arrival Place: New York, New York, USA
Declaration Date: 21 Jun 1932
Declaration Place: New York
Court: U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York
Spouse: Raffaela
Declaration Number: 332364
Box Number: 198
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1639359 DeSimone Raffaela May 11 1922 #22198 Manhattan D255 Chiarovalle Felice
You can request a copy online for a fee. It should show Felice's parents' names and, maybe, his place of birth.
https://www1.nyc.gov/doittshoppingcart/ ... ficate.htm
Possible Social Security index listing
Name: Felice Chiaravalle
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birth Date: 7 Aug 1875
Birth Place: Reggio Calab, Italy
Father:
Antonio Chiaravalle
Mother:
Francesca Crucitti
SSN: 124018925
Notes: Jun 1937: Name listed as FELICE CHIARAVALLE
Naturalization record. (declaration of Intent)
Same birth date as above. Wife is Raffaela.
https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/co ... Id=6629025
Felice Chiaravalle
in the New York, U.S., State and Federal Naturalization Records, 1794-1943
Name: Felice Chiaravalle
[Felice Charavelle]
Gender: Male
Declaration Age: 56
Record Type: Declaration
Birth Date: 7 Aug 1875
Birth Place: Calabria Italy
Arrival Date: 10 Jul 1907
Arrival Place: New York, New York, USA
Declaration Date: 21 Jun 1932
Declaration Place: New York
Court: U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York
Spouse: Raffaela
Declaration Number: 332364
Box Number: 198
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