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Dr. Robert Bosso

Post by MusicBosso » 12 Oct 2016, 11:50

Hi. I have been looking for origins on this guy for years and years. He pops up in New Orleans on Newspapers.com and then his family moves to Pensacola afterwards. I do not know when or where he specifically came from. Its weird because his tombstone says he was born in Verona Italy, but my family visited there, found somebody with the same last name, and told them Verchille is the place where he probably came from. But I don't know if the guy knew what he was talking about. Romeo and Juliet was popular back then so they may have misunderstood him and thought Verona, or maybe he just was Verona since they wouldn't really know where Verchille is. (Like people say they are born in Port-au-Prince instead of a specific area in Haiti.)
He sold elixirs, but its weird because he stopped a whole town from getting yellow fever for a good while, but he and a woman he was treating died.

Does anybody have anything that could help?

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Post by suanj » 31 Dec 2016, 17:50

Hi,
we will happy to help you, but some other detail could be helpful... almost the possible birthyear... you say that on the tombstone, Verona is the birthplace (or Vercelli), but the birthyear? when he died?
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Re: Dr. Robert Bosso

Post by Tessa78 » 31 Dec 2016, 18:11

POSSIBLE Family Tree on Ancestry for this Dr. Robert Bosso?

http://person.ancestry.com/tree/4080317 ... 6148/facts

Facts

Birth
15 Sep 1839 • Verona, Veneto, Italy

(AGE)
Immigration
About 1874

Birth of Son Samuel Clarke Bosso(1879–1959)
22 Jan 1879 • Mississippi, USA

Birth of Son Antonio Bosso(1881–)
18 Oct 1881 • Mississippi

Death
3 Sep 1883 • Warrington, Escambia, Florida, USA

Burial
30 Sep 1883 • Warrington, Escambia, Florida, USA

Find a Grave of Dr. Robert Bosso
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cg ... d=54020410

Articles
Dated 4 March 1883
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/62735/d ... arch_1883/
Dated 25 April 1883
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/62720/d ... 3/?xid=637
Dated 4 July 1883
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/62705/d ... 3/?xid=637

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Post by suanj » 31 Dec 2016, 18:40

Thanks Tessa very interesting, maybe he was born before of 1839.. and I believe his Birth name was no Roberto... I read abt Boss's Blessing, and for other people he was a charlatan...
I wish to search, because is a interesting search.
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Re: Dr. Robert Bosso

Post by suanj » 01 Jan 2017, 17:38

looking into the family, I found the 1900 census:

Samuel Bosso

United States Census, 1900

Name Samuel Bosso
Event Type Census
Event Year 1900
Event Place Precinct 13 Pensacola city, Escambia, Florida, United States
Gender Male
Age 20
Marital Status Single
Race White
Race (Original) W
Relationship to Head of Household Stepson
Relationship to Head of Household (Original) S Son
Birth Date Nov 1880
Birthplace Florida
Father's Birthplace Italy
Mother's Birthplace Mexico

Household

Role

Gender

Age

Birthplace

Constantine Apostle Head M 71 Greece
Connie Apostle Son M 19 Florida
George Apostle Son M 16 Florida
Samuel Bosso Stepson M 20 Florida
Antoine Basco Stepson M 19 Mississippi
George Neldenton Boarder M 15 Canada Eng
Werney N Minnie Servant F 16 Alabama
the two brothers was in the convent
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=1325221
they was the stepsons of this greek man, Constantine Apostle, and that is a mystery also---

Samuel, just on 1910 declares that he was born in Mississippi, instead on 1930 and 1940 census he declares that he was born in Alabama, no in Mississippi; on 1900 census he declares that was born in Florida, in other birthdate......
If Samuel was born really on 1879, he must be on 1880 census as a well the his father and mother.... it is important to find it, because we can have a better idea abt the Robert age...

Sam Bosso

United States Census, 1910

Name Sam Bosso
Event Type Census
Event Date 1910
Event Place Pensacola, Escambia, Florida, United States
Gender Male
Age 30
Marital Status Married
Race White
Race (Original) White
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original) Head
Birth Year (Estimated) 1880
Birthplace Mississippi
Father's Birthplace Italy
Mother's Birthplace Alabama
Sheet Letter A
Sheet Number 51

Household

Role

Gender

Age

Birthplace

Sam Bosso Head M 30 Mississippi
Edith Bosso Wife F 27 Florida
Velma Bosso Daughter F 2 Florida
Samuel Bosso Son M 0 Florida
Shensa Clark Sister-in-law F 15 Florida

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the 1930 census:
Samuel C Bosso

United States Census, 1930


Name Samuel C Bosso
Event Type Census
Event Date 1930
Event Place Pensacola, Escambia, Florida, United States
Gender Male
Age 51
Marital Status Married
Race White
Race (Original) White
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original) Head
Birth Year (Estimated) 1879
Birthplace Alabama
Father's Birthplace Italy
Mother's Birthplace Alabama
Sheet Letter A
Sheet Number 19

Household

Role

Gender

Age

Birthplace

Samuel C Bosso Head M 51 Alabama
Margaret E Bosso Wife F 47 Florida
Robert E Bosso Son M 18 Florida
Vivian A Bosso Daughter F 17 Florida
Cathrine E Bosso Daughter F 15 Florida
Janice F Bosso Daughter F 14 Florida
Samuel C Bosso Son M 12 Florida
Thomas B Bosso Son M 9 Florida
Rita A Bosso Daughter F 8 Florida
William J Bosso Son M 6 Florida
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... cc=1810731

the mother birthplace, sometimes Mexico and sometimes Alabama. I believe that Robert Bosso married in Alabama...
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Post by suanj » 01 Jan 2017, 17:42

Also by this record seeming born in Alabama:
Bosso Bosso

Florida Births and Christenings
Name Bosso Bosso
Gender Male
Birth Date 27 Jul 1904
Birthplace Pensacola, Escambia, Florida
Race White
Father's Name S. C. Bosso
Father's Birthplace Ala.
Father's Age 25y
Mother's Name M. E. Burns
Mother's Birthplace Pensacola
Mother's Age 22y

these records just in the hope to find 1880 census and to have a better idea abt Robert...
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Post by suanj » 01 Jan 2017, 17:53

on 1900 census, Samuel and Antonio Bosso was the stepsons of Constantine Apostle, the greek man.. well I found the his marriage to Mrs Carrie Bosso, I believe the widow of Robert Bosso:

Name Constantine Apostle
Event Type Marriage
Event Date 19 Mar 1888
Event Place , Escambia, Florida, United States
Gender Male
Marital Status Married
Spouse's Name Mrs Carrie Bosso
Spouse's Gender Female

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=2397260
and I believe that Carrie could be the short version of Caroline first name.

I also found a possible record abt previous marriage:

A. Bosso
Mississippi Marriages
Name A. Bosso
Spouse's Name Caroline Turner

Event Date 19 Jan 1882
Event Place Washington,Mississippi

maybe his name was Alberto changed in Roberto...???
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Post by suanj » 01 Jan 2017, 21:35

and searching and searching... I believe I found another son of Robert Bosso; I don't know if he was Antonio Bosso who changed the first name or another son ....here the Death record:

Wm. R. Bosso

Arizona Deaths

Name Wm. R. Bosso
Event Date 28 Aug 1926
Event Place Douglas, Cochise Co., Arizona
Gender Male
Age 44
Birth Year (Estimated) 1882
Marital Status Married
Spouse's Name Julia Bosso
Father's Name Robert Bosso
Mother's Name Unknown
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=1534450

no doubts that he is a son of Robert Bosso... born on 30 jun 1882;
birthplace Pensacola FL... but obviously the data could be no right to 100%...

here the 1920 census:
William R Bosso
United States Census, 1920
Race White
Race (Original) W
Can Read Yes
Can Write Yes
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original) Head Name William R Bosso
Event Type Census
Event Date 1920
Event Place Douglas, Cochise, Arizona, United States
Gender Male
Age 37
Marital Status Married

Own or Rent Rent
Birth Year (Estimated) 1883
Birthplace Alabama
Father's Birthplace Italy
Mother's Birthplace Alabama
Sheet Letter A
Sheet Number 7
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
William R Bosso Head M 37 Alabama
Joe C Biggs Joe C Biggs
Partner M 44 Texas
William H Becker William H Becker
Partner M 51 Kansas

and 1910 census:

William Bosso
United States Census, 1910
Name William Bosso
Event Type Census
Event Date 1910
Event Place Pensacola, Escambia, Florida, United States
Gender Male
Age 29
Marital Status Married
Race White
Race (Original) White
Relationship to Head of Household Son-in-law
Relationship to Head of Household (Original) Son-in-law
Birth Year (Estimated) 1881
Birthplace Florida
Father's Birthplace Italy
Mother's Birthplace Florida
Sheet Letter B
Sheet Number 33
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Mary Jerome Head F 54 Alabama
William Bosso Son-in-law M 29 Florida
Stella Bosso Daughter F 23 Florida
Joseph Corregan Adopted son M 15 Florida

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Re: Dr. Robert Bosso

Post by Tessa78 » 01 Jan 2017, 21:51

Great finds, suanj! :-)

Here is possible grave/death of Carrie, wife of Constantine Apostle, and mother of Sam, Antonio and William???

Name: Carry D Apostle
Birth Date: 15 Jan 1860
Birth Place: Perry County, Alabama, USA

Death Date: 22 May 1896
Death Place: Pensacola, Escambia County, Florida, USA
Cemetery: Saint John's Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Pensacola, Escambia County, Florida, USA
Has Bio?: Y

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cg ... 7&ref=acom

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Post by suanj » 01 Jan 2017, 22:12

Wonderful find Tessa... She was very young... I have some perplexity abt Bosso spelling.. I searched in Verona archive and I found just Bossi, and no Bosso.. and no one Roberto... I believe Verona birthplace totally wrong... Bosso is a bit popular as a well Bossi... or Bosio..
Here the Death notice of Robert Bosso Image
https://s30.postimg.org/fi342u369/bosso.jpg
(21 Sep 1883 German newspaper in Hermann, Missouri)
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Re: Dr. Robert Bosso

Post by elmosgirl » 09 Jan 2017, 03:11

Hi Tessa and Suanj,
The newspaper from Hermann caught my eye, since my husband's family settled in this small town in the 1850s.
I know the town very, very well!

I was surprised to see it pop up on Italian Genealogy since it is a German town through and through!
Even to this day :-) Then I became curious about why an Italian doctor would have been in this small hamlet.

I found this photo of his tombstone which states he was born in Verona. We know tombstones and cemetery records can be oh-so-wrong, but for whatever it's worth, I will attach the link here for you. There's a write-up of his death at the Find-A-Grave site as well.

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cg ... 0&ref=acom

I still don't know why the German newspaper would have reported his death! Have lots of searching to do.

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Post by suanj » 09 Jan 2017, 07:25

Hi Noel,
thanks a lot.
Most probably Robert Bosso was born in a italian place that at time of his Birth this place was under Austrian Empire power, and Verona also was under Austrian Empire power from 1815 to 1866...
https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regno_Lom ... a_1815.svg

so the german was the Language and the italian, obvously.. Robert Bosso don't had problem to stay in a german town...
So after this your great input we can have a better idea and to search his birthplace:

-the surname spelling could be Bosso, but also Basso or Bassi; currently are some Bosso in Verona, but at time of Robert Birth I don't found any Bosso in Verona http://archivio.comune.verona.it/nqcont ... ?a_id=8738
but many Basso and Bassi surnames. Personally I believe more right Basso than Bosso and maybe Bosso was used in USA, because by the german and english Languages, in the years, the pronounce of surname could be changed, and so also the original italian spelling.

-the first name: the more affordable record is the marriage, but just a "A.".
No a "R." but a "A." and normally, a person don't have reason to change the his first name on a marriage documents so he stated that his real first name starting with A; so Robert maybe was a stage name. As he was **SPAM** a supposed antidote against yellow fever maybe adopted Robert first name.....

-the birthplace could be the area of Verona province.. but no many records on line so it is hard to search...
But if no Verona town was the birthplace, some commune in Verona province could be the his birthplace.....

-the his work: he don't was doctor, really, but I believe that in Italy he could have worked with some pharmacist, or herbalist, learning to create potions. Because no one person can improvise and make potions without a minimum of knowledge of pharmacy, otherwise could poison people...

Well waiting the reply of poster, maybe he have some other helpful detail.....
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Re: Dr. Robert Bosso

Post by ebosso » 19 Jan 2017, 22:47

Hello,

I stumbled across this post today accidentally while I was searching for family related genealogy. I am a decedent of 'Dr Robert Bosso' and I have been searching for the origins of my great great grandfather for years. It is amazing to find that several of you have been able to determine in a few short months what it took me much, much longer to discover. I too have been unable to link Dr. Robert Bosso back to Verona Italy. It is interesting to see the death notice of Robert Bosso in a German newspaper.

I will gladly share any information that may be helpful.

Thank you,
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Hi Eric,
Thanks if you will you know some other helpful infos!
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