Cuciardi and Andolina families in Alia, Palermo

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Cuciardi and Andolina families in Alia, Palermo

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My Grandfather was Salvatore Solvan Cuciardi, and my Grandmother was Maria Grazie Andolina (sp?)- Cuciardi. I know they came from Alia, Palermo, Sicily on the SS Manilla in 1901. They stayed in New Orleans and worked in the sugar cane fields until moving to Pennsylvania, then finally settling in Niagara Falls, New York, where my Father was born! I just found my Grandmother has "2 cousin's in Italy" in her obituary. I have always wondered if I still have family there. If anyone has any information I would greatly appreciate it! I am on ancestry.com also. Thank you! Lisa Conjerti (changed from Cuciardi sometime after coming to America)-Panek
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There is one Cucciardi listed in the Italian Phone book in Palermo (searched on Alia)... a possible relative?
http://www.paginebianche.it/eng/ricerca ... a+%28PA%29

AND... 5 listings for ANDOLINA in Alia :-)
http://www.paginebianche.it/eng/ricerca ... a+%28PA%29


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Welcome to IG website

Birth record of Salvatore Concialdi (I think this is the right spelling)
INDEX#246
1875 Nov 27th in the town of Alia province of Palermo in a house on via Ippolito birth of Salvatore Concialdi son of Antonino Concialdi age 39 farmer and his wife Lucia Federico

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Marriage of Salvatore Concialdi and Maria Grazia Andolina
INDEX#21
1899 June 10th in the town of Alia province of Palermo marriage of Salvatore Concialdi age 24 farmer born and resides in Alia son of deceased Antonino Concialdi and deceased Lucia Federico married Maria Grazia Andolina age
17 born and resides in Alia daughter of Filippo Andolina and Rosalia Di Carlo

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Birth record of Grazia Andolina
INDEX#258
1881 Oct 30th in the town of Alia province of Palermo in a house via Carmella #16 birth of Grazia Andolina daughter of Filippo Andolina age 30 farmer and his wife Rosalia Di Carlo

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This marriage license for their daughter Lucy showing the spelling of the surname closer to what marty :-) found in the civil records... in this case...Conciardi.
Her marriage was in 1930 in Niagara Falls, NY; birth in 1910 in Pennsylvania.

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Death extract of Antonino Concialdi (father of Salvatore Concialdi )
INDEX#58
4/12/1887 in the town of Alia province of Palermo death of Antonino Concialdi age 37 (abt 1850) born and resides in Alia son of deceased Luciano Concialdi and deceased Rosa Chimento husband of Lucia Federico

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SORRY CORRECTION TO LAST POST COPIED WRONG INFO
Death extract of Lucia Federico (mother of Lucia Federico )
INDEX#58
4/12/1887 in the town of Alia province of Palermo death of Lucia Federico age 37 (abt 1850) born and resides in Alia daughter of deceased Luciano Concialdi and deceased Rosa Chimento wife of Antonino Concialdi

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Death extract of Antonino Concialdi (father of Salvatore Concialdi)
INDEX#149
11/22/1884 in the town of Alia province of Palermo death of Antonino Concialdi age 53 (abt 1831) farmer born and resides in Alia son of deceased Giuseppe Concialdi and deceased Lucia Territo husband of Lucia Federico

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I can't begin to thank you all enough!! My brothers and I were told our name had probably been changed but we never had proof until finding my Grandfather's birth certificate after my Father passed away, and we saw Cuciardi for the first time! Now to see how it has changed, and to find all this new information, (I had no names after my Grandparents)and new family members, I'm just amazed! I can't wait to dive in deeper and see if any of the names in Palermo are relatives of mine, or if anyone came to America with them! Thank you all so much!
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I've been trying to locate a ship manifest, but I keep hitting brick walls...and working with just a smart phone doesn't help. They sailed on the SS Manilla (Manila?) and arrived in New Orleans on or about October 1, 1901. For all I know, it could've been 1900 too! Since we seem to be on a roll, I'd love to see a manifest if it exists. :)

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I wonder now if there is a way to find out about siblings of my Grandparents...other family members either still there or who may have immigrated with them. I also want to know if my search efforts need to change now knowing the name Cuciardi I've been searching was changed from the original Concialdi? Thank you for any help you can provide. Lisa
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Go through the birth indexes for Alia for Concialdi and check the birth records with the same parents as Salvatore son of Antonino Concialdi and his wife Lucia Federico

In searching Italian civil records you have birth(nati) death(morte) marriage (matrimoni) by year most go from 1866-1910 some towns have other years. Indexes are found at the beginning or end of the year you are searching by index number and surname.There are also multi year indexes which combine 5 or 10 years of indexes.
So most of the time just look in the index for the name you are are searching for in that year you are searching then find the index number and go back and find the record with that number on it.
Sometimes there are no indexes at all then its page by page search by year but just because one year has no index doesn’t mean all years don’t have a index
Births have 3 records per image most of the time marriages have 2 records per image deaths have 4 images per image sometimes records are single pages depends how they were photographed by the FHL Family History Library
Babies are born then presented to the civil official of the town usually within a few days of birth for entry in the birth registry that’s why the difference in dates on the record If there is a problem and they cant register the birth act until much later they are entered in the Parte 2 for that year usually in the rear of the records and that record is usually handwritten. Sometimes there are sidenotes with marriage or death information or if the act has a mistake in it a correction to those mistakes
Marriage records include birth town, ages, occupations, parents names and if they are deceased which is very helpful in record searching
Death records have the age of deceased also the parents names and if they were married and to whom and usually town of birth usually not the cause of death
Civil records are signed by the civil official and 2 witnesses not usually family members
The indexes for the churches in Italy of baptism and marriage and death are arranged by first name first (later years last name first) by year and date of the act and page and record number. Just find your person in the index and go back to the records to find the act you

PG LINK TO INDEXES OF ALIA
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cat=183880

PG LINK TO INDEXES OF ALIA

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PG LINK TO INDEXES OF ALIA

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BIRTH RECORDS PG LINK OF ALIA
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BIRTH RECORDS PG LINKS OF ALIA
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HERES SOME OF HIS SIBLINGS

Birth record of Lucia Concialdi
INDEX#172
1882 June 9th in the town of Alia province of Palermo birth of Lucia Concialdi daughter of Antonino Concialdi and his wife Lucia Federico

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Birth record of Cosimo Concialdi
INDEX#61
1880 Feb 26th in the town of Alia province of Palermo birth of Cosimo Concialdi son of Antonino Concialdi and his wife Lucia Federico

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Thank you so much Marty! Sorry I haven't checked in in a while. I see my cousin Joey is on here looking too! Great! The more the better!!😊
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