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Re: Birth record, I hope someone can help me, not sure where to start

Post by davidjo » 16 Aug 2018, 17:42

yonomas84 wrote:
16 Aug 2018, 16:41

I got this:

No good news from the Comune of Castelfidardo: they checked the birth records between 1866 and 1895, and no person with the last name DI PEO was born in Castelfidardo in those 30 years ! The research is not easy because I really believe that Filippo’s last name was mispelled or changed when he arrived in Argentina.
In fact the last name DI PEO or DIPEO in Italy doesn’t exist. Please click here:

http://www.gens.info/italia/it/turismo- ... 3LCI-gzZPY
If you hired someone, they'll do that because they charge for every attempt, doesn't matter if they find the certificate or not.

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Post by yonomas84 » 16 Aug 2018, 17:54

I just sent an email from their website

http://www.comune.casacanditella.ch.it/ ... omune.html

Not sure if they check that, but I had to try

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Re: Birth record, I hope someone can help me, not sure where to start

Post by yonomas84 » 16 Aug 2018, 17:58

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15 Aug 2018, 20:55

It should be noted that the Felice in the birth act I posted was married in 1888 to Concetta Ciccolatto, according to the notation on the birth act. It IS possible that she died and he remarried???
wow, I missed this part. Well, "Felipe" had a son (Pedro) in Argentina in 1908 (20 year after)
Where could I check info about Concetta Ciccolatto? Maybe she died and that's is why Felice decided to go to Argentina.

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Post by Tessa78 » 16 Aug 2018, 19:35

I will see what I can find...

When did Felipe arrive in Argentina?

NOTE: a correction to the surname of Felice's spouse - Ciccolallo.

Another thought: Could he and his wife have traveled to Argentina? THEN she died?
Do you have and arrival for Felipe?

T.

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Post by Tessa78 » 16 Aug 2018, 20:53

I have searched for a death act for Concetta Ciccolallo in Semivicoli (1888-1900) and in Tollo (her place of birth according to the annotation of marriage - searched 1888=1907), but was unsuccessful.

Here is the request for publication of marriage banns in Tollo for Felice Di Peio and Concetta Ciccolallo on 27 October 1888.
The marriage took place in Casacanditella - so I will look there. It is possible that is where they resided.
http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... ewsIndex=0

T.

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Post by yonomas84 » 16 Aug 2018, 21:03

Tessa78 wrote:
16 Aug 2018, 19:35
I will see what I can find...

When did Felipe arrive in Argentina?

NOTE: a correction to the surname of Felice's spouse - Ciccolallo.

Another thought: Could he and his wife have traveled to Argentina? THEN she died?
Do you have and arrival for Felipe?

T.

sorry, no info about the arrival
we know he was in 1908 in Argentina because his son Pedro was born in 1908.
It's hard to say when he got married in Argentina


It says at the end nineteen... something, it seems like an overlap of papers
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Post by yonomas84 » 16 Aug 2018, 21:05

the weird part is... his signature

Felipe Dipeo, not Felice... maybe he didn't care the misspelling?

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Post by Tessa78 » 16 Aug 2018, 21:19

Felice and Felipe may not be the same person...

There is nothing to prove that they were... only that they appear to have the same parents :-)

The Felipe in the baptism is born about 1872 - and we have not found his birth act.

The Felice in the birth act was born in 1867 to what appears to be the same parents.

Let us hope that the Comune of Semivicoli finds a birth act for Felipe/Filippo.

And it would be helpful to have an arrival for Felipe Di Peo - it would give the year and his age.

T.

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Post by yonomas84 » 16 Aug 2018, 21:34

Tessa78 wrote:
16 Aug 2018, 21:19
Felice and Felipe may not be the same person...

There is nothing to prove that they were... only that they appear to have the same parents :-)

The Felipe in the baptism is born about 1872 - and we have not found his birth act.

The Felice in the birth act was born in 1867 to what appears to be the same parents.

Let us hope that the Comune of Semivicoli finds a birth act for Felipe/Filippo.

And it would be helpful to have an arrival for Felipe Di Peo - it would give the year and his age.

T.

Same parents... that is weird but, the embassy probably won't accept as the same person
Besides these 2 links

https://www.altreitalie.it/Servizi/Cerc ... gentina.kl

http://www.ciseionline.it/portomondo/tabelle.asp

do you know any other database about passenger list of ships that arrived in America?

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Post by Tessa78 » 16 Aug 2018, 21:51

Same parents... that is weird but, the embassy probably won't accept as the same person
Having the same parents is not weird :-) They could be brothers. One named Felice and the other Filippo whose given name took an Argentinian form (Felipe)

Yes, I believe the embassy will not accept them as the same person since there is no proof. That is to say, other verification that they are the same person.

Try posting a request for assistance in the "Emigration, Immigration..." forum here. There are other volunteers who might be able to help find an arrival for Felipe Di Peo.

T.

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Post by yonomas84 » 17 Aug 2018, 00:14

Tessa78 wrote:
16 Aug 2018, 21:51
Same parents... that is weird but, the embassy probably won't accept as the same person
Having the same parents is not weird :-) They could be brothers. One named Felice and the other Filippo whose given name took an Argentinian form (Felipe)

Yes, I believe the embassy will not accept them as the same person since there is no proof. That is to say, other verification that they are the same person.

Try posting a request for assistance in the "Emigration, Immigration..." forum here. There are other volunteers who might be able to help find an arrival for Felipe Di Peo.

T.
Thanks I posted on the Emigration, Immigration forum.

One question, what's the best way to finds out all the kids that Tommaso Di Peio and Angela Frani had? That might be the way to find Felipe

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Post by Tessa78 » 17 Aug 2018, 03:38

I checked the birth indices in Semivicoli from 1866 -1876, and only found the two children (Carmela and Felice) whose birth acts I posted, born to Tommaso Di Peio and Angela Frani.

I have not located a birth act for Felipe/Filippo, or the daughter Maddalena whose death information I posted. It gave her birth year about 1868. It was not there.

I also searched births from 1888 onward for children that may have been born to Felice Di Peio and Concetta Ciccolallo. I checked in several comuni: Semivicoli, Tollo, Casacanditella, and Castelfidardo. I found no children born to this couple.

T.

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Post by yonomas84 » 23 Aug 2018, 23:31

Tessa78 wrote:
17 Aug 2018, 03:38
I checked the birth indices in Semivicoli from 1866 -1876, and only found the two children (Carmela and Felice) whose birth acts I posted, born to Tommaso Di Peio and Angela Frani.

I have not located a birth act for Felipe/Filippo, or the daughter Maddalena whose death information I posted. It gave her birth year about 1868. It was not there.

I also searched births from 1888 onward for children that may have been born to Felice Di Peio and Concetta Ciccolallo. I checked in several comuni: Semivicoli, Tollo, Casacanditella, and Castelfidardo. I found no children born to this couple.

T.

Thank you so much @Tessa78, unfortunately, this seems to be a dead-end :(


I wish Felice and Felipe were the same men

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Re: Birth record, I hope someone can help me, not sure where to start

Post by yonomas84 » 18 Oct 2018, 16:21

@Tessa78
I'm in Utah now, I understand that the Genealogical Society of Utah have records about this issue, not sure if those are the same records online

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Re: Birth record, I hope someone can help me, not sure where to start

Post by yonomas84 » 16 Jan 2020, 16:47

its been almost 2 years... so far nothing

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