Giaquinto Information needed (Found At Last)

[nuccia]

These are the six hits on ancestry for UK deaths of Gertrude Egan...


View Record Doris Gertrude Egan 27 Aug 1902 Jun 1986 83 Walsall Staffordshire
View Record Edith Gertrude Egan 18 May 1916 Apr 1994 77 Wrekin Shropshire
View Record Ethel Gertrude Egan 14 Aug 1894 Apr 1984 89 Liverpool Lancashire
View Record Gertrude Egan 16 Mar 1903 Nov 1990 87 High Peak Cheshire
View Record Gertrude Leila Egan 28 Jun 1915 Feb 2003 87 Trafford Cheshire
View Record Gertrude Mary W Egan 30 Nov 1906 Mar 1991 84 Manchester Lancashire

The 2003 one is interesting...

England & Wales, Death Index: 1984-2004 Recordinfo
about Gertrude Leila Egan
Name: Gertrude Leila Egan
Birth Date: 28 Jun 1915
Death Registration Month/Year: Feb 2003
Age at death (estimated): 87
Registration District: Trafford
Inferred County: Cheshire
Register Number: A53A
Entry number: 258

Is this what you were looking for Joyce?

Let me know. I have to go out this afternoon but I will try and check in. Leaver any info anyone needs and I'll see what I can do.

Janice, I got you PM..Brampton is close. Here's a link to Find a Grave which helped me alot. Lets try posting on it.

http://www.findagrave.com/forums/postli ... PHPSESSID=

These people search all kinds of cemetaries and documents. Maybe they will help. We have nothing to lose. I'll get back to you, I promise.

Nuccia

[wldspirit]

Ok, I'm up and at about as they say......was up till the wee hours trying to find anything on any of the names we have here........the only thing I came up with is a Brian Selwood, who publishes short stories on the web....nothing else with the exception of this, and one of which we have already ruled out.........

GERTRUDE D EGAN
MIRIAM T EGAN 85
75
VALLEY STREAM NY

GERTRUDE EGAN
ANN G EGAN -
76
BRADENTON FL

GERTRUDE B EGAN 80
WARWICK RI

GERTRUDE B EGAN 81
LOWELL MA

5 GERTRUDE BETTY EGAN
JOSEPH EGAN
MARY E EGAN
G E EGAN
JOS H EGAN 81
-
86
81
LOWELL MA

GERTRUDE N EGAN -
PLYMOUTH MA


GERTRUDE BETTY EGAN
MARY E EGAN 81
86
LOWELL MA

GERTRUDE B EGAN -
WEST PALM BEACH FL

GERTRUDE E EGAN 81
LOWELL MA

Name Approx Age Birth
Date Phone Address City State Additional
Reports

GERTRUDE M EGAN 86
BRIGHTWATERS NY

GERTRUDE EGAN -
LYNBROOK NY

GERTRUDE EGAN -
KINGSPORT TN

For search terms I used all three known surnames, and a combination of first names and locations............

Janice.........we are a determined group here at Italian Genealogy.......and we have great team effort.........we'll keep at it!!!!!!!!
DeLisa

[wldspirit]

Since we have now hit 5 pages.........I thought a summary was in order.....if I have left out any vital info, please correct.........

Gertrude Giaquinto
possible nickname - Trudy
birth - approx. 1925
birth location - ?
father - James Giaquinto, could be Giacomo,
his profession is listed as laborer.
mother - ??
siblings - ??
marriages of Gertrude - Unknown Egan.
Brian Selwood, age 23, at St. Pauls Church in Seacombe, England, Oct. 3, 1950. Gertrude is age 25.
children - Unknown daughter, possible birthyear of 1945.
Wayne Selwood, birthyear 1951, Liverpool, England.
Returns to USA 1953 - 1954. Could be upstate New York, Plattsburg.
Son resides with father and stepmother in Canada.

Only solid lead is a post at this site........

http://missing-you.net/datapilot/reply.php?refnum=2853

DeLisa

[jancrowe]

Just to let all know have been trying to get the marriage certificate up on here but have no idea how tried to put it on the missing you site but that didn't work either too big.

In England this is how they list the Bride: Gertrude Giaquinto 25, Spinster,no profession, Father: James Giaquinto, Laborer.
Her father as far as the info shows was still alive in 1950 when they married whereas Brian's Father was listed as deceased.


On Wayne's Birth Certificate It shows name and surname of Father and his profession then this is how they listed his Mother:
Gertrude SELWOOD
late GIAQUINTO
formerly EGAN.

One would think that in this day and age of data entry there would be more up to date census records especially now with the scanner equipment that they have. I have looked for and been unable to find records of her "First" Marriage and/orDivorce or in Canada his marriage to his second wife but am still trying to find out about that.

Wayne has been told that they did post ads in major upstate New York papers for her regarding divorce proceedings and I have attempted to get records previously but didn't have dates etc so went no-where. Canadian records too are well behind the times.

I am sure that Wayne came into the states on his mother's passport that is how he got his US papers so quickly. Here we have Child tax credit(baby bonus) this was never applied for in Wayne's case because they thought he was here illegally. So it is possible his father never had legal custody of him either.

These same questions have been going round and round in my head since the mid 80s.

Janice

[jcsm400]

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[jancrowe]

hi all;

just ran across this posting on the ancestry.com US site under veterans cemetaries 1800-2004........GERTRUDE K EGAN, DOB 30 AUG 1919 DD 3 DEC 2002.
Husband: GERALD F EGAN (US ARMY) buried at Calverton National Cemetary, Claverton New York.

Will try to dig alittle further tonight............thank you all for your continued help and support.....Janice

[nuccia]

Here's the record of the Gertrude..

U.S. Veterans Cemeteries, ca.1800-2004 Recordinfo
about Gertrude K Egan
Name: Gertrude K Egan
Veteran's Rank: 1ST LT
Branch: US Army
Relation Name: Gerald F Egan
Relationship: Wife
Last known address: 210 Princeton Boulevard Rt 25 Calverton , NY 11933
Birth Date: 30 Aug 1919
Death Date: 30 Nov 2002
Interment Date: 3 Dec 2002
Cemetery: Calverton National Cemetery
Buried At: Section 71 Site 248
Cemetery URL: http://www.cem.va.gov/nchp/calverton.htm
Relationship Notes: Wife of Egan, Gerald F

and I found this interesting..

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/2389/imagex2dk.png

We'll keep digging.

Nuccia

[suanj]

Hi Janice,
the email that I sended some day ago, well they receveid it, for sure, but no reply... yesterday, sunday, I faxed, and I hope in some reply..
about the info on Gertrude, I think that they have some info about the person and they can give us, otherwise as we can find it?

about Giacomo giaquinto, as already saying, was only 1 person with this name, that made 2 travel, and lived in Paterson, Paissac NJ... now and thanks to Nuccia help, I have the record of a Thomas Giaquinto in Paterson... that had a daughter Filomena born in 1925... the problem is that are some discrepance and I don't know if this Thomas really was Giacomo, because the first name is different; for sure we have:

-ONLY a Giacomo Giaquinto with probable age good for to be a Gertrude father came in USA ( and are also other 2.. but the 1° was born in 1865 and cannot be the Gertrude father ; the 2° was as GiaquintA surname very different from GiaquintO, and in 1950 the errors on italian surnames was rare)...

-because we cannot find the right Gertrude, because as Gertrude Egan are many persons in UK and also in USA, we must go back until the James father records, hoping to find some trace...

- I know that Wayne mentioned Plattsburgh, Clinton NY but this town is residence place of Gertrude abt in 1960, but previous we don't know what was the USA birthplace of Gertrude

- Wayne don't remember when and what was the exact year of Gertrude in Plattsburgh? You can contact Plattsburgh city hall for to ask some info about Gertrude Egan resident in this years...?

-However waiting missing you reply, we search also by Giacomo/James trace...

-all our prayers are for you and Wayne, and also our efforts for to find...

Best regards, suanj

[suanj]

Hi if someone can look this records:

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 Record
Military
View Image Name: Giacomo Giaquinto
Birth: date dd mm year
Residence: city, Passaic, New Jersey
Other: location

1920 United States Federal Census Record
Census
View Image Name: Jack Giaquinto
Birth: abt 1887 - location
Arrival: year
Residence: 1920 - city, Passaic, New Jersey


1920 United States Federal Census Record
Census
View Image Name: James Giaquinto
Birth: abt 1883 - location
Arrival: year
Residence: 1920 - city, Plymouth, Massachusetts



thanks, suanj

[jcsm400]

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[jcsm400]

suanj,

Here is the link to WWI Draft Card.

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/4508/g ... ard9gp.jpg

[nuccia]

Here are the census links:

1920 United States Federal Census Recordinfo
about Jack Giaquinto
Name: Jack Giaquinto
[Jack Giangrande]
Age: 33 years
Estimated birth year: abt 1887
Birthplace: Italy
Race: White
Home in 1920: Paterson Ward 7, Passaic, New Jersey
Home owned: Own
Sex: Male
Marital status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Head
Year of immigration: 1910
Able to read: No
Able to Write: No
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Image: 1074

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/2774/imagex6ty.gif

1920 United States Federal Census Recordinfo
about James Giaquinto
Name: James Giaquinto
[James Gidguinto]
Age: 37 years
Estimated birth year: abt 1883
Birthplace: Italy
Race: White
Home in 1920: Brockton Ward 2, Plymouth, Massachusetts
Home owned: Own
Sex: Male
Marital status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Head
Year of immigration: 1907
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Father's Birth Place: Italy

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/2623/imagex8ym.gif

Hope this helps!

Nuccia

[suanj]

suanj,

Here is the link to WWI Draft Card.

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/4508/g ... ard9gp.jpg

joyce, thanks, very thanks!
Now we know that this is the only Giacomo Giaquinto probable gertrude father! He came in 1911 and Marta wife in Sala town, joining in Paterson to a parent... in 1922 the same person came again, always Marta wife and joining Domenico brother in Paterson... in draft card the wife also is in Paterson.... I think that this could be Gertrude father, the age is right for to have a daughter in 1925, the other giacomo was in new Haven CONN, but born in 1865, most old for a daughter born in 1925... now we must find Gertrude or some other middle name, but born in 1925 and with James father... thanks, take care, suanj

[suanj]

Hi Nuccia thanks! the first is Giacomo and Marta ... the second is the James in Plymouth... I cannot find this Giacomo on ellis island ... he and the wife Rose emigrated in 1907... however one of two chances, or NJ or MASS... also this in Plymouth is a probable record...! Now need of to find in 1930... Gertrude born in 1925, and she must be in the census... Thanks for great effort, we must to find Gertrude for Wayne and Janice happiness! great heart in italiangenealogy!!! kisses, suanj

[suanj]

Here are the census links:

1920 United States Federal Census Recordinfo
about Jack Giaquinto
Name: Jack Giaquinto
[Jack Giangrande]
Age: 33 years
Estimated birth year: abt 1887
Birthplace: Italy
Race: White
Home in 1920: Paterson Ward 7, Passaic, New Jersey
Home owned: Own
Sex: Male
Marital status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Head
Year of immigration: 1910
Able to read: No
Able to Write: No
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Image: 1074

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/2774/imagex6ty.gif

1920 United States Federal Census Recordinfo
about James Giaquinto
Name: James Giaquinto
[James Gidguinto]
Age: 37 years
Estimated birth year: abt 1883
Birthplace: Italy
Race: White
Home in 1920: Brockton Ward 2, Plymouth, Massachusetts
Home owned: Own
Sex: Male
Marital status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Head
Year of immigration: 1907
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Father's Birth Place: Italy

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/2623/imagex8ym.gif

Hope this helps!

Nuccia

Hi Nuccia, in this first census(Paterson NJ), is a daughter of 3 months old, called Jillie... what is this diminutive...? what is the right first name for Jillie... you know when used jillie instead of complete first name? the age is no a problem, because with the women and when tmust to marry... ehhh... suanj