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How Can this be True

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Calogero Puma, the son of Giuseppe Puma and Marianna Pantalone, had multiple marriages.

In 1889, he married Carmela Scime at age 26. Record # 42:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=1946817

19 years later, in 1908, he married Gioachino Pino at age 24. He should have been age 45. Record # 8:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=1946817
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One more piece of the puzzle. I have an 1880 birth record for Calogero Puma, same parents, with a side note regarding his 1905 (mistakenly said 1908 in my original post) marriage:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=1946817

Makes me think, there must have been an older Calogero Puma, but that normally happens when the first one dies young, which is not the case here.

That implies he would have been 9 years old in the 1889 marriage which is impossible. Again implying an older Calogero Puma from the same parents existed. If true, the older one, based on age and marriage in 1889 would have been live when the younger one was born.
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rp76226 wrote: 19 Dec 2020, 00:36 Calogero Puma, the son of Giuseppe Puma and Marianna Pantalone, had multiple marriages.

In 1889, he married Carmela Scime at age 26. Record # 42:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=1946817

19 years later, in 1908, he married Gioachina Pino at age 24. He should have been age 45. Record # 8:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=1946817
I realize I'm not answering your question, but it must be Gioachina, not Gioachino? :D
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Yes.
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https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=1946817

Different people with the same name and same parents' names?

Do you have the birth record of the one married first born ca. 1863? Looks like 1862 is missing and I didn't see him in 1863/1864. I'd suggest looking for separate marriages with the parents' names separated by about 15 years.
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No. I've been searching for it without any luck so far. Racalmuto has no birth records for 1861 nor 1862. If he's there, I'm out of luck.
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The first Calogero seems to have followed the naming tradition for his children...

1890 - Marianna (#413)
1892 - Giuseppe (#9)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=1946817
1893 - Teresa (#515)
1895 - another Teresa (#268)

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The second Calogero had two children that I am aware of - a boy and a girl, each named after Calogero's parents, so he followed tradition also.
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Death act of the first Calogero in 1910
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https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=1946817

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Thank you.
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Tessa78 wrote: 19 Dec 2020, 22:46 Death act of the first Calogero in 1910
#492
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=1946817

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The first declarant on the above death act, Giuseppe Puma, appears to be the brother of the deceased Calogero. Giuseppe is age 43 on the record, so born about 1867.

Here is a birth act in 1867 for Giuseppe Puma, son of Giuseppe di Puma (age 39) and Marianna Restivo Pantalone, age 26.
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https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=1946817

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Thank you. I was aware of Giuseppe's existence but did not have an exact date of birth.
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Anche la mia bisnonna si chiama Puma e di nome Francesca, ma non credo sia nel tuo stesso ramo.
Comunque conosco un amico in USA che sa tutto sui Puma.
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Da che città viene? La mia filiale è di Racalmuto, Agrigento, Sicilia. Ho legami coniugali con grandi clan Puma di Ribera e Cattolica Eraclea. Ho oltre 1.000 Puma imparentate (per sangue o matrimonio) sul mio albero. Ho 7 Tabbone sul mio albero.

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Ciao Ron, ci conosciamo bene. Ci siamo sentiti qualche mese fa, a settembre 2020, e grazie al tuo aiuto ho fatto molti passi avanti sul mio albero, se non ti ricordi sono il pronipote di
Francesca Puma e Luciano Esposto Tabbone figlio di Marianna Tabbone.
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