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Gaglianone-Rizzo-Impieri-Renda (Belvedere Marittimo)

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Buongiorno a tutti,

Sto lavorando sul mio albero genealogico, sono nipote de Francesco Gaglianone b1929 in Belvedere Marittimo,

Ho contattato la pagina Italianside.com per vedere di trovare i certificati che mi mancano.

Qualcuno sa se ci sono i censimenti di Cosenza accesibili? Ho cercato anche nella web:

antenati.san.beniculturali.it

Mah i archivi di Cosenza non sono ancora stati digitalizzati.

Qualsiasi aiuto e benvenuto!!
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Re: Gaglianone-Rizzo-Impieri-Renda (Belvedere Marittimo)

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Qui trovi alcuni record per Belvedere Marittimo:

https://www.familysearch.org/search/cat ... %20Library
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https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cat=512131
Ciriaco Galiganone born 9 Apr 1892 to parents Giuseppe Gaglianone, 40, and Rachele Impieri. Contains annotation for marriage to Carmela Rizzo on 14 June 1919.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cat=512131
Carmela Rizzo born 14 July 1900 to parents Antonio Rizzo (son of Matteo Rizzo), 30, and Maria Giuseppa Renda (daughter of Raffaele Renda) with the same marriage annotation as above.
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rlw254 wrote: 09 Jan 2021, 15:41 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cat=512131
Ciriaco Galiganone born 9 Apr 1892 to parents Giuseppe Gaglianone, 40, and Rachele Impieri. Contains annotation for marriage to Carmela Rizzo on 14 June 1919.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cat=512131
Carmela Rizzo born 14 July 1900 to parents Antonio Rizzo (son of Matteo Rizzo), 30, and Maria Giuseppa Renda (daughter of Raffaele Renda) with the same marriage annotation as above.
GRAZIE!! Avevo trovato quello di Ciriaco ma non quello di Carmela... sai como potrei trovare i matrimoni di :

*Antonio Rizzo e Maria Giuseppa Renda
*Giuseppe Gaglianone e Rachele Impieri

O le nascite di loro cosi posso sapere i suoi genitori.

Grazie mille!!

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PippoM wrote: 09 Jan 2021, 13:15 Qui trovi alcuni record per Belvedere Marittimo:

https://www.familysearch.org/search/cat ... %20Library

Grazie Pippo, lùnico modo di cercare e guardando imagine per imagine? non ce un indice o trascrizione no?

Qualcuno sa se i censimenti di Belvedere si possono accedere?

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https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cat=512131
Antonio Rizzo & Maria Giuseppa Renda

Cercherò l'altro matrimonio


https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cat=512131
Giuseppe Gaglianone & Rachele Impieri
Apricena, Caltanissetta, Grottolella, Mazzarino, Montefredane, Salerno, San Severo, Vasto
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rlw254 wrote: 12 Jan 2021, 00:19 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cat=512131
Antonio Rizzo & Maria Giuseppa Renda

Cercherò l'altro matrimonio



https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cat=512131
Giuseppe Gaglianone & Rachele Impieri
GRAZIE!! Sei incredibile!! io sono stato a guardare per ore e non riuscivo a trovarlo... avevo gia mal di testa!!

Nei registri mi sono venuti dei dubbi e forse tu sei piu bravo e lo puoi capire:

Antonio Rizzo dice "ani veinte" cioe e nato aprox 1870
Maria Giussepa Renda "anni veinti otto???" cioe e nata aprox 1862, posibile o sara 18 e stato sbagliato la scritura?

Poi il nome della mamma tu legi anche "Gianmarino"?

Nell atto di nascita di Antonio sembra che il padre si chiama Matteo ma nell matrimonio dice Mateo, credo e Matteo il nome giusto.

Adesso metterò il altro atto di matrimonio e vedro si trovo alcun dubbio.

Grazie per il aiuto.

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Dopo di trascrivere i Matrimoni il albero e rimasto in questo modo,

Adesso mi guarderò i microfilm per trovare i 4 matrimoni que mi mancano per scoprire i genitori.
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Correct, Antonio Rizzo age 20 and Maria Giuseppa Renda age 28. The ages read "venti" & "ventotto".
Antonio Rizzo son of Marco Rizzo & Angela Perrone (I do not read Matteo. Perhaps Marco Matteo Rizzo if Matteo is used elsewhere)
Maria Giuseppa Renda daughter of Raffaele Renda & Angela Scannavino

Older records are not available because access is locked. You may be able to find death records for these parents to learn about the next generation.


E Carolina Bencardino, non Bernardino


https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=2043464
Rosaria Raffo died 24 Sept 1890 age 75 daughter of Pietro Raffo (deceased) & Cassandra [no surname; does not say 'fu' but I would be surprised if she is alive], wife of Vincenzo Gaglianone

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=2043464
Angela Scannavino died 13 Sept 1893 age 72 daughter of Nicola Scannavino (deceased) & Leonilda Palermo (deceased) wife of Raffaele Renda

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=2043464
Carolina Bencardino died 12 May 1897 age 61 daughter of Luigi Bencardino (deceased) & Maria Capano (deceased) wife of Antonio Impieri

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=2043464
Antonio Impieri died 20 Mar 1900 age 74 son of Nicola Impieri (deceased) & Rachele Biondo (deceased) widower of Carolina Bencardino

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=2043464
Raffaele Renda died 2 Aug 1900 age 78 son of Giuseppe Renda (deceased) & Rosa Versante (deceased) widower of Elisabetta Angela Scannavino

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=2043464
Marco Rizzo died 17 July 1909 age 78 son of Antonio Rizzo (deceased) & Anna Santise (deceased) ?
[does not give wife's name - maybe different person]
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Vincenzo Gaglianone still alive by 4 Apr 1900
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=2043464

Cannot find the others - maybe they died after 1910 as this is all I have access to.

It is possible Vincenzo Gaglianone is alive after 1910 but he would be very old.
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rlw254 wrote: 12 Jan 2021, 20:23 Vincenzo Gaglianone still alive by 4 Apr 1900
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=2043464

Cannot find the others - maybe they died after 1910 as this is all I have access to.

It is possible Vincenzo Gaglianone is alive after 1910 but he would be very old.
If Vincenzo is alive, looking at the age of the wife he would be about 95 years old in 1910, Maybe after the wife's death he emigrated to America?

Regarding Marco in Antonio's birth certificate it said "Matteo" and in Marriage "Marco" it is strange that Marco says that he is single and the wife cannot be found although they are more likely to die after 1910.


Thank you very much for your help, I don't know how you do to see it so quickly, do you have it indexed?

You are amazing

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There are indices at the end of most years. For deaths, all years after 1879 that I searched had indices (since this was the year of the first marriage and all parents were living). It is possible you can find even another generation by searching for the deaths of parents of each of the above people but I haven't looked yet.

Marriages in the 1890s were missing several indices and I have not looked at the births yet. For the years missing indices you'll have to search page-by-page.

It is of course possible that Vincenzo Gaglianone left for America or even another town, though in the 1900 death record of his son it states that he is living in Belvedere. He would be quite old for travel even at this point if his wife was born around 1815.
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rlw254 wrote: 12 Jan 2021, 21:28
It is of course possible that Vincenzo Gaglianone left for America or even another town, though in the 1900 death record of his son it states that he is living in Belvedere. He would be quite old for travel even at this point if his wife was born around 1815.
You are right about Vincenzo, he probably died after 1910 or moved to another town, although he was old enough to move long distances at that time.

If you find something else I would appreciate it very much, these days I will look at the marriages a little to be able to assemble the families of brothers.

Locked records there is no way to see them otherwise? I have seen that you have to go to some of their libraries
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It is much more common for there to be a mistake when the person is named as a grandfather than when the person is named as a father (i.e. in Carmela's birth record vs. her father's marriage record). I would bet Marco is the name most commonly used. I have seen elderly people who are widowed listed as celibe on their death record but it is not very frequent.

The locked records are accessed through a LDS family history center.

Finding the rest of these will be slower but I will post when I can.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cat=512131
Luigi Bencardino died 29 Jan 1868 age 62 son of Domenico Bencardino (deceased) & Felicia Bencardino (deceased) widower of Maria Capano (died before 1866) and husband of Caterina Riente (second wife)
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https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cat=512131
Leonilda Palermo age 74 daughter of Nicola Palermo (deceased) & Innocenza Caroprese (deceased) widow of Nicola Scannavino & Giuseppe Renda

Not really seeing any more. The rest are likely deceased before 1866.
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