Rolando in Valpera Torino Piemonte

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Rolando in Valpera Torino Piemonte

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So I am sure I am like so many here.....Can't trace my family back to far in US due to great grandparents were immigrants in early 1900's . I guess all my life I have day dreamed that I have close relatives still in the region. So here is what I have:
George John Rolando
1868–1935
BIRTH 1868 • Valperga Ilaly
DEATH 12/02/1935 • Du Quoin, Perry, Illinois, United States
He married Catherine/Catterina Frosak? In Valperga
they had 2 children my grandfather Sylvester Charles and
my great aunt Lena to which the story goes was 3 when immigrated.
George's parents Michael and Chinta.

I know it's a long shot to just throw a random post out, but hey it's worth a try.
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I think this is him:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... at=1642729

Giorgio Giovanni Rolando-Perino, born on Dec 21st, 1868, son of Michele (son of deceased Antonio), 40 years old, and of Giacinta Bergera, daughter of deceased Giovanni, 38 yo, peasant. The child was born in their home, at via Peschiera, at 2pm.The child was twin of a stillborn female child.
The side annotation states he married Maria Frana (?) in Valperga on Jan 16th, 1893
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And here is his marriage to Maria Catterina Frasca:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... at=1642729

Catterina was born on Dec 5th, 1871, daughter of deceased Vincenzo, and living Maria Maglietto.
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Hi Bobbi - Do you have a Giuseppe Rolando or a Giacomo Rolando in your family? Giuseppe was an Italian immigrant and age 24-years-old when he arrived on the steamship La Gascogne on November 28, 1892; he is passenger #663 on this page of the ship's manifest:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=1368704

Giacomo Rolando appears as passenger #705 on the following page; he was listed as a 21-year-old Italian:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=1368704

Also on this page is an Italian named Giovanni Rolando (passenger #711), aged about 29, which means he was born about 1863. Ages on ship manifests are usually inaccurate, so you might want to see if this is your great-grandfather.

Giuseppe and Giacomo listed their destinations as Braidwood, Illinois, which was a coal-mining town outside Chicago that employed a lot of Italian immigrants in its mines. Also, if you look carefully at this manifest, seven of the Italian passengers listed their destinations as Du Quoin, Illinois.

Giovanni listed his destination as New York City and his occupation as merchant.
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Here are two Rolando's, both from Italy, arriving on the steamship La Champagne on September 4, 1893. Giuseppe, a 22-year-old miner (passenger #485), and 29-year-old Giovanni (passenger #491):

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=1368704

There were a lot of other Italians on this ship and many were going to Braidwood.
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Sorry I haven't replied before now. Have had grand kids for the last week so I don't get online much.
Thank you soooo much for the info. I am currently working on getting a copy of my great grandparents wedding license. I will upload once I get. Till then I will run down the leads you all have provided me with.
Again Thanks!
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Not sure if I attached photo properly. Pic of wedding license....looks to be the same. Hard for me to tell due to don't know Italian. Kind of hinders me.
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Marriage celebrated in Valperga on 16 Jan 1893 between Giorgio Giovanni Rolando-Perino and Maria Caterina Frasca, both of Valperga. Certificate for the full marriage record posted above.
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Re: Rolando in Valpera Torino Piemonte

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I think I found a brother.....Anyone care to give me a second opinion?

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... 1UIV7&i=32

I have been retyping into Google Translate, it does ok considering I am still trying to figure out the hand writing of the day. What I call a f is a s so confusing even to Google.

Thanks!

PS Perino? Two last names. How does that all work and why?
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Yes, this is a brother:
Giovanni Antonio Rolando-Perino born on Sep 28th, 1866.
A "double" surname was used in some villages of that area, probably to add more specification to some very common surnames. At some point in time, it must have become hard to identify families just by surname, so, it was felt the need to add one more. I mean, if in the village there were less than, let's say, five surnames, the surname itself would make no sense.
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