Cheroti Heritage
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Cheroti Heritage
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 8:32 am Post subject: Cheroti heritage
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My family name is Cheroti but my grandfather was killed in jail and so my best link is his brother my great uncle and he says that are name used to be cerrutti but it was changed or something my family is from chicago though and he is actually in italy right know. My uncle says that we are from a town called piano in campania near Napoli and Salerno. Anyone that has any information of what might have happened or anything else tell me thx.
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 4:18 pm Post subject: Re: Cheroti heritage
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Hello, the town is PIANO DI SORRENTO,
and this is the email of comune
info @ pianodisorrento.net
where to ask for civil records
There are not Cheroti at all in Italy, but Cerruti in Napoli area
www.paginebianche.it/p...A&x=42&y=7
I hope it helps, bye ricbru
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 4:23 pm Post subject: Re: Cheroti heritage
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Cheroti101 wrote:
My family name is Cheroti but my grandfather was killed in jail and so my best link is his brother my great uncle and he says that are name used to be cerrutti but it was changed or something my family is from chicago though and he is actually in italy right know. My uncle says that we are from a town called piano in campania near Napoli and Salerno. Anyone that has any information of what might have happened or anything else tell me thx.
hi, Cerruti is tipical of Italy north, no south ... if you write some other detail, as first name is better for help you.. also are various Piano or Piana in Campania province, all hamleth, with exception of Piano di Sorrento near Napoli and Salerno.... the surname spelling could be CERRATO very common in this area... also are alternate spelling CERRUTO.
regards, suanj
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 4:24 pm Post subject: Re: Cheroti heritage
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ops ric :
abbiamo risposto insieme, sorry, suanj
we have replied both.. sorry, suanj
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 5:16 pm Post subject: Re: Cheroti heritage
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What are your research goals? What have you located so far? Providing more detail will help forum members help you.......names, dates, ages, children and known locations.
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 8:31 pm Post subject: Re: Cheroti heritage
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I am sure that it is the town piano di sorrento, I have to ask my uncle about his grandparents and what were their names because it has my grandparents death records but goes nothing beyond that about any of their parents. I just want to know why it changed from Cerruti to what it is know.
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 7:35 am Post subject: Re: Cheroti heritage
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you can say us the first name of your ancestor?
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Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 10:15 am Post subject: Re: Cheroti heritage
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My great grandfathers name was peter cheroti, and my grapfathers name was Robert Cheroti and My Uncles name is Peter Cheroti jr. but which name is more common in the napoli area, cerrutti or cerruti?
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 8:32 am Post subject: Cheroti heritage
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My family name is Cheroti but my grandfather was killed in jail and so my best link is his brother my great uncle and he says that are name used to be cerrutti but it was changed or something my family is from chicago though and he is actually in italy right know. My uncle says that we are from a town called piano in campania near Napoli and Salerno. Anyone that has any information of what might have happened or anything else tell me thx.
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ricbru
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 4:18 pm Post subject: Re: Cheroti heritage
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Hello, the town is PIANO DI SORRENTO,
and this is the email of comune
info @ pianodisorrento.net
where to ask for civil records
There are not Cheroti at all in Italy, but Cerruti in Napoli area
www.paginebianche.it/p...A&x=42&y=7
I hope it helps, bye ricbru
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 4:23 pm Post subject: Re: Cheroti heritage
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Cheroti101 wrote:
My family name is Cheroti but my grandfather was killed in jail and so my best link is his brother my great uncle and he says that are name used to be cerrutti but it was changed or something my family is from chicago though and he is actually in italy right know. My uncle says that we are from a town called piano in campania near Napoli and Salerno. Anyone that has any information of what might have happened or anything else tell me thx.
hi, Cerruti is tipical of Italy north, no south ... if you write some other detail, as first name is better for help you.. also are various Piano or Piana in Campania province, all hamleth, with exception of Piano di Sorrento near Napoli and Salerno.... the surname spelling could be CERRATO very common in this area... also are alternate spelling CERRUTO.
regards, suanj
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ops ric :
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we have replied both.. sorry, suanj
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 5:16 pm Post subject: Re: Cheroti heritage
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 8:31 pm Post subject: Re: Cheroti heritage
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I am sure that it is the town piano di sorrento, I have to ask my uncle about his grandparents and what were their names because it has my grandparents death records but goes nothing beyond that about any of their parents. I just want to know why it changed from Cerruti to what it is know.
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you can say us the first name of your ancestor?
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Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 10:15 am Post subject: Re: Cheroti heritage
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My great grandfathers name was peter cheroti, and my grapfathers name was Robert Cheroti and My Uncles name is Peter Cheroti jr. but which name is more common in the napoli area, cerrutti or cerruti?
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Cerruti is the more common spelling, to see for yourself,
place the surname in cognome on the left of the screen and click on the arrow at the following site, http://www.gens.labo.net/
it will show the distribution of the surname on a map of Italy......
wldspirit
place the surname in cognome on the left of the screen and click on the arrow at the following site, http://www.gens.labo.net/
it will show the distribution of the surname on a map of Italy......
wldspirit
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Only one record came up with the correct spelling of Cheroti:
U.S. World War II Army Enlistment Records, 1938-1946 Record
about Peter J Cheroti
Name: Peter J Cheroti
Birth Year: 1912
Race: White, citizen
Nativity State or Country: Illinois
State: Illinois
County or City: Cook
Enlistment Date: 10 Mar 1942
Enlistment State: Illinois
Enlistment City: Camp Grant
Branch: Branch Immaterial - Warrant Officers, USA
Branch Code: Branch Immaterial - Warrant Officers, USA
Grade: Private
Grade Code: Private
Term of Enlistment: Enlistment for the duration of the War or other emergency, plus six months, subject to the discretion of the President or otherwise according to law
Component: Selectees (Enlisted Men)
Source: Civil Life
Education: 2 years of college
Civil Occupation: Photographer, Aerial or Accountant or Auditor
Marital Status: Divorced, with dependents
Height: 67
Weight: 161
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U.S. World War II Army Enlistment Records, 1938-1946 Record
about Peter J Cheroti
Name: Peter J Cheroti
Birth Year: 1912
Race: White, citizen
Nativity State or Country: Illinois
State: Illinois
County or City: Cook
Enlistment Date: 10 Mar 1942
Enlistment State: Illinois
Enlistment City: Camp Grant
Branch: Branch Immaterial - Warrant Officers, USA
Branch Code: Branch Immaterial - Warrant Officers, USA
Grade: Private
Grade Code: Private
Term of Enlistment: Enlistment for the duration of the War or other emergency, plus six months, subject to the discretion of the President or otherwise according to law
Component: Selectees (Enlisted Men)
Source: Civil Life
Education: 2 years of college
Civil Occupation: Photographer, Aerial or Accountant or Auditor
Marital Status: Divorced, with dependents
Height: 67
Weight: 161
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Re: Cheroti Heritage
Yeah that is him, my family is from chicago. I just dont know the name of his parents. If I had those maybe i could trace more back. So cerruti is probably what it was?
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Need to place the family on a census, which will provide naturalization info and immigration info.......locating a ship manifest may provide other relatives names.......
Can you provide the names of the other children in the family, besides Peter Jr. and also the wife's name?
As for the name, that is based on the spelling you provided....need to check the spelling provided by Suanj as well....along with a manifest!!
wldspirit
Can you provide the names of the other children in the family, besides Peter Jr. and also the wife's name?
As for the name, that is based on the spelling you provided....need to check the spelling provided by Suanj as well....along with a manifest!!
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Names
The wifes name is Madeline Cheroti and the other son is Robert and the daughter is Mary
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Hi Cheroti101..
I merged your 2 topics...please, try and keep all the info contained to one. Its too difficult to follow otherwise.
Thanks
nuccia
I merged your 2 topics...please, try and keep all the info contained to one. Its too difficult to follow otherwise.
Thanks
nuccia
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Social Security Death IndexCheroti101 wrote:Yeah that is him, my family is from chicago. I just dont know the name of his parents. If I had those maybe i could trace more back. So cerruti is probably what it was?
PETER J CHEROTI 08 Jan 1912 Apr 1994 94578 (San Leandro, Alameda, CA) (none specified) 359-03-9447 Illinois
If filled out correctly, his ss application will provide parents' names. Here is a form letter to request the application
http://ssdi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.c ... amesiffix=
jcsm
Researching in San Vitaliano, Napoli, Italy & Armento, Potenza, Italy.
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California Death Index, 1940-1997 Record
about PETER JOSEPH CHEROTI
Name: CHEROTI, PETER JOSEPH
Social Security #: 359039447
Sex: MALE
Birth Date: 8 Jan 1912
BirthPlace: ILLINOIS
Death Date: 19 Apr 1994
Death Place: ALAMEDA
Mother's Maiden Name: MALONE
Father's Surname:
California Death Index, 1940-1997 Record
about ROBERT L CHEROTI
Name: CHEROTI, ROBERT L
Social Security #: 549644075
Sex: MALE
Birth Date: 17 Sep 1947
BirthPlace: ILLINOIS
Death Date: 27 Mar 1973
Death Place: MARIN
Mother's Maiden Name:
Father's Surname:
Can you confirm the above two records and the relationship between the two?
wldspirit
about PETER JOSEPH CHEROTI
Name: CHEROTI, PETER JOSEPH
Social Security #: 359039447
Sex: MALE
Birth Date: 8 Jan 1912
BirthPlace: ILLINOIS
Death Date: 19 Apr 1994
Death Place: ALAMEDA
Mother's Maiden Name: MALONE
Father's Surname:
California Death Index, 1940-1997 Record
about ROBERT L CHEROTI
Name: CHEROTI, ROBERT L
Social Security #: 549644075
Sex: MALE
Birth Date: 17 Sep 1947
BirthPlace: ILLINOIS
Death Date: 27 Mar 1973
Death Place: MARIN
Mother's Maiden Name:
Father's Surname:
Can you confirm the above two records and the relationship between the two?
wldspirit
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Sorry bout that.....one of which is duplicate info...something is missing here but can't quite put my finger on it.....lack of sleep.....
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Those records are true because robert my grandfather died back then and everything and my great grandfather died in that area.
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Given the limited info and input.......based on these records.....file for a birth certificate for family members that you know of, and death certificates...skip the Soc Sec app for now.......the birth/death certificates will provide the info you need to work your way backwards.......
also here is a handy outline for genealogy research......
http://www.graonline.com/cgi-bin/gra/do ... gratrailer
name: CHEROTI, MADELINE AGNES
death: 3 Jan 1989
Place:ALAMEDA
sex; FEMALE
birth; 6 Nov 1916
birth place: NEBRASKA
mothers maiden name: JENZEN
name: CHEROTI, PETER JOSEPH
death: 19 Apr 1994
Place: ALAMEDA
sex: MALE
birth: 8 Jan 1912
place: ILLINOIS
mothers maiden name: MALONE
name: CHEROTI, ROBERT L
death: 27 Mar 1973
Place: MARIN
sex: MALE
birth: 17 Sep 1947
place: ILLINOIS
wldspirit
also here is a handy outline for genealogy research......
http://www.graonline.com/cgi-bin/gra/do ... gratrailer
name: CHEROTI, MADELINE AGNES
death: 3 Jan 1989
Place:ALAMEDA
sex; FEMALE
birth; 6 Nov 1916
birth place: NEBRASKA
mothers maiden name: JENZEN
name: CHEROTI, PETER JOSEPH
death: 19 Apr 1994
Place: ALAMEDA
sex: MALE
birth: 8 Jan 1912
place: ILLINOIS
mothers maiden name: MALONE
name: CHEROTI, ROBERT L
death: 27 Mar 1973
Place: MARIN
sex: MALE
birth: 17 Sep 1947
place: ILLINOIS
wldspirit
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Sorry for the limited input i work full time. I still dont know what the name was before cheroti. Thank you I am just pretty tired because i do manual labor .
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Sorry, can't answer your question.....Perhaps by tracing the family or talking to other family members, you'll get the answer.
Here is some possiblities as to what the name could have been.
http://stevemorse.org/goulnik/match1.ph ... &dwpdone=1
jcsm
Here is some possiblities as to what the name could have been.
http://stevemorse.org/goulnik/match1.ph ... &dwpdone=1
jcsm
Researching in San Vitaliano, Napoli, Italy & Armento, Potenza, Italy.
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By input I mean to say we need further details, as much as you can provide:
full names
spouse name
birthdates
childrens names
birthdates
where can we expect to find them and when.
We need to start with Peter and work backwards if we are to discover his parents, immigration and naturalization, both of which may turn up the ORIGINAL surname......
Peter was born in Chicago in 1912.....when did he move to California?
Did he have brothers or sisters? Do you know the names of the parents?
Your grandfather was killed in jail.......his name? His brothers name? His wifes name?
Did Peters mother remarry?.........By providing this info we can find and identify the family thru source records......without it, we are but guessing.
we are here to help....
wldspirit
full names
spouse name
birthdates
childrens names
birthdates
where can we expect to find them and when.
We need to start with Peter and work backwards if we are to discover his parents, immigration and naturalization, both of which may turn up the ORIGINAL surname......
Peter was born in Chicago in 1912.....when did he move to California?
Did he have brothers or sisters? Do you know the names of the parents?
Your grandfather was killed in jail.......his name? His brothers name? His wifes name?
Did Peters mother remarry?.........By providing this info we can find and identify the family thru source records......without it, we are but guessing.
we are here to help....
wldspirit