Lorenzo/Laurenzo

[bobficoturo]

Hi suanj

Rhode Island Marriages, 1636-1930
about Maria Laurenza
Spouse 1: Maria Laurenza
Spouse 2: Luigi Compagnone
Marriage Date: 09 Apr 1911

Oh yes! This would be my Grandparents. Question - If they were married in 1911, would it not make more sense to look at the 1920 census rather than the 1910 census as you suggested in another message?

BF

[bobficoturo]

Hi Misbris - Yes I'm aware of this. Actually, what we called her was pronounced "zizzee"... an affectionate form of Zia. Thanks for your response.

BF

The words Zio and Zia are Italian for uncle and aunt. Zio Carmino is Uncle Carmine and Zia is Aunt Jenny. There are many possibitities for Jenny's Italian first name.

[bobficoturo]

Hi Valerie - Carmine's wife's name was Esther (she was hearing impaired). Also, his father's name was Giovanni and his mother's name was Esther. Thanks for your response.

BF

suanj, thank you for correcting my error on the surname !

BF,
Some clues if this record belongs to Maria's brother Carmine.
Valarie


Possible marriage record from NEHGS
New England Historic Genealogical Society (subscription site)

Massachusetts Vital Records, 1841 - 1910
22 Oct 1910
Lawrence, Essex, MA

Record #983

Carmine Laorenza 20 (abt 1890)
1st marriage
Residence: 179 Elm
Occupation: Mill op.
Born in Italy
Father: Angelo
Mother: Elena Izza

Angiola Tommasina 21 (abt 1889)
1st marriage
Residence: 231 Oak
Occupation: Mill op.
Born in Italy
Father: Angiolantonio
Mother: Teresa Croce

Married by Edward J Wade, J.P. & City Clerk

This marriage record probably belongs to the Carmine on the 1908 manifest
that suanj found - mother Elena in Caianello
(he was probably traveling with a cousin - name lined off)
1908 manifest
page 2

[bobficoturo]

Hi Laura - I don't think that this record is my Grandfather's. First, I never heard his last name referred to as Cambano; second, his spouse would have been my Grandmother, Maria or Mary; and finally, the children's names would have been Jenny, Genarina, and Louise. I am grateful for your time and effort.

Hi!
From Luigi Compagnone's WWI draft Card (Dec. 9, 1918) the address seems:
40 Swiss street, Providence
so maybe this is a possible 1920 census for him and his family??
The house number is 40, I checked the previouse page....

1920 United States Federal Census
about Louis Campbano
Name: Louis Campbano
[Louis Campbans]
Home in 1920: Providence Ward 9, Providence, Rhode Island
Age: 32 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Anna 8O
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Year of Immigration: 1906
Able to read: No
Able to Write: No
Image: 172
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Louis Campbano 32
Anna Campbano 36
Anthony Campbano 7
Giovanni Campbano 5
Amadeo Campbano 3
Mary Campbano 1 1/12
Vincent Carella 51

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Laura

[pink67]

Hi Bob,

so possible this is the right 1930 census ??


1930 United States Federal Census
about Loni Campagnone
Name: Loni Campagnone on the manifest it seems Louis
Home in 1930: Providence, Providence, Rhode Island
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Loni Campagnone 45
Mary Campagnone 41
Jennie Campagnone 15
Jerry Campagnone 10
Louisa Campagnone 5

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Laura

[bobficoturo]

Hi Pink67 - Yes! That's the one. Genarina was my Mother. When she went to school, the teachers thought she ought to have an American name, so they told her they would call her Geraldine (imagine changing a wonderfully lyrical name like Genarina to anything else). So her school records reflect that name. Outside of school, she was called Jerry and always spelled it with a "J". I have no idea how Luigi became Loni unless it was just a typo.

I'm sure this is the correct record. Thank you so much.

BF

Hi Bob,

so possible this is the right 1930 census ??


1930 United States Federal Census
about Loni Campagnone
Name: Loni Campagnone on the manifest it seems Louis
Home in 1930: Providence, Providence, Rhode Island
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Loni Campagnone 45
Mary Campagnone 41
Jennie Campagnone 15
Jerry Campagnone 10
Louisa Campagnone 5

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Laura

[suanj]

Hi suanj

Rhode Island Marriages, 1636-1930
about Maria Laurenza
Spouse 1: Maria Laurenza
Spouse 2: Luigi Compagnone
Marriage Date: 09 Apr 1911

Oh yes! This would be my Grandparents. Question - If they were married in 1911, would it not make more sense to look at the 1920 census rather than the 1910 census as you suggested in another message?

BF

oh yes, but my suggestion in previous message, well it was before the marriag record.. so the 1920 census will be helpful! regards, suanj

[pink67]

From the database: Rhode Island Deaths, 1630-1930

Name: Domenico Compagnone
Kin 1: Luigi Compagnone
Kin 2: Maria Compagnone
Death Date: 27 Nov 1911
Age: 20 dys

Name: Gennaro Compagnone
Kin 1: Luigi Compagnone
Kin 2: Maria Compagnone
Death Date: 15 May 1919
Age: 1 yrs

Name: - Compagnone
Relation: s
Kin 1: Luigi Compagnone
Kin 2: Maria Compagnone
Death Date: 15 Nov 1913

From : Rhode Island Births, 1636-1930

Name: Gennarina T Compagnone
Parent 1: Luigi Compagnone
Parent 2: Maria Compagnone
Birth Date: 06 Jan 1920

Name: Gennaro Compagnone
Parent 1: Luigi Compagnone
Parent 2: Maria Compagnone
Birth Date: 21 Oct 1917

Name: Giovannina Compagnone
Parent 1: Luigi Compagnone
Parent 2: Maria Compagnone
Birth Date: 16 Jan 1915


Name: - Compagnone
Relation: s
Parent 1: Luigi Compagnone
Parent 2: Maria Compagnone
Birth Date: 15 Nov 1913 so possible was the baby who dead on the same date

[bobficoturo]

Hi Pink67 - My Grandparents had 3 boys and 3 girls. Each of the boys perished soon after birth, but the 3 girls survived. See below.

From the database: Rhode Island Deaths, 1630-1930

Name: Domenico Compagnone
Kin 1: Luigi Compagnone
Kin 2: Maria Compagnone
Death Date: 27 Nov 1911
Age: 20 dys

This was the first boy.

Name: Gennaro Compagnone
Kin 1: Luigi Compagnone
Kin 2: Maria Compagnone
Death Date: 15 May 1919
Age: 1 yrs

This was the second.

Name: - Compagnone
Relation: s
Kin 1: Luigi Compagnone
Kin 2: Maria Compagnone
Death Date: 15 Nov 1913

This was the third. He would have been named Luigi after his father had he lived.

From : Rhode Island Births, 1636-1930

Name: Gennarina T Compagnone
Parent 1: Luigi Compagnone
Parent 2: Maria Compagnone
Birth Date: 06 Jan 1920

This is my Mother. I wasn't aware that her name was spelled with 2 "n's"

Name: Giovannina Compagnone
Parent 1: Luigi Compagnone
Parent 2: Maria Compagnone
Birth Date: 16 Jan 1915

This is the oldest girl and my aunt who was called Jennie

Name: - Compagnone
Relation: s
Parent 1: Luigi Compagnone
Parent 2: Maria Compagnone
Birth Date: 15 Nov 1913 so possible was the baby who dead on the same date

That's exactly correct. All of the boys died of respiratory problems. What I don't see is a record of my Aunt Louisa. She and my Aunt Jennie both passed away a few years ago. Thank you so much. I am very grateful for your assistance.

BF

[suanj]

She was sponsored, I believe, by an organization that did such things for a fee (I believe it was paid to them in the old country) in order to acquire cheap labor - the stories my grandmother told were not pretty. Bottom line - she didn't know the man who "claimed her". She was with many others who were trucked from NYC to Mass. and put up in the same place

Hi, abt this your phrase.... I wish ask you if the Giuseppe DE DATTIS name have some signifiance for you... and, also, if is possible that Maria came before of 1902.... let me know your suggestions...
regards, suanj

[bobficoturo]

Hi Suanj

Hi, abt this your phrase.... I wish ask you if the Giuseppe DE DATTIS name have some signifiance for you... and, also, if is possible that Maria came before of 1902.... let me know your suggestions...
regards, suanj

I don't know that name, and don't believe that I've ever heard Maria refer to it.

Yes, it is possible that she came before 1902. I originally believed that Maria came to the US in 1901 based on Maria's comment to me that she was 13 when she arrived. Since she was born in 1888, that would make her arrival year 1901. There has been some disput about that. My cousin says her Mom told her that Maria came here at age 14 - that would make her probable arrival date at 1902.

Bob Ficoturo

[sassicassi]

Hi Bob,

I think we might distantly be related. My family came from the same area and my last name is Laurenzo. I've built a family tree up as far as I can but am lacking critical information that is only with my family in New York. They have no interest in this sort of thing and it's hard to get a hold of anyone for information but they are all from the same area. do you have an email address and a link to a family tree?

Cassie Laurenzo

[zona1]

I may have some records on these people through FHC films I have rented - please contact me at italiandocuments@gmail.com

[bobficoturo]

Hi Bob,
I think we might distantly be related. My family came from the same area and my last name is Laurenzo. I've built a family tree up as far as I can but am lacking critical information that is only with my family in New York. They have no interest in this sort of thing and it's hard to get a hold of anyone for information but they are all from the same area. do you have an email address and a link to a family tree?
Cassie Laurenzo

Hi Cassie - We very well might be related. I understand that about a third of town of caianello has the surname Laurenzo or some iteration of it. We found that my grandmother's last name was actually LaurenzA. My Email address is:
bobficoturo@verizon.net
Please feel free to contact me if you wish. We have uncovered a great deal of info about my Grandmother and that area.
Bob F.