Trabia burned vital records

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Trabia burned vital records

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According to legend, a gentleman who was supposedly a fascists burned the town hall because it held his vital records. He wanted to leave Italy but could not if they had his birth certificate. Is there any record of this truly happening? If so, could you give me a copy?

Also, why couldn't people depart Italy? Did they need to ask permission?

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DannaReLoprinzi wrote: 13 Oct 2019, 04:38
Also, why couldn't people depart Italy? Did they need to ask permission?

Thank you in advance,

Lisa
Some information that may be of interest to you.
https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/It ... From_Italy
Other Records of Departure

In 1869 the Italian government began requiring people to obtain passports to move within Italy. However, the United States and many other countries did not require passports, so many Italians left Italy without an official passport.

The Italian government used passports to make sure young Italian men did not emigrate to avoid the military draft. Consequently, police were responsible for passports. Passports are still issued today by the questura (head of the internal police) in each province. Although you may write to request passport information, the archives where these records are kept are not open to the public. You will generally find passports among the personal papers of the emigrant’s family in his or her destination country.

And at this site "People With Migrating Restrictions - Port of Naples"
https://surnamesinitaly.com/immigration ... restr.html

Some complaints may against people to prevent their emigration:
The reasons of the complaints are varied and interesting, here are some examples:
- Sometimes, the Italians did not apply for their passport in the commune. Then, they had to do this before emigrating.
- Reporting of a crime, pending criminal cases
- Minor running away
- Abandonment of the wife. P.E.: Request of impediment because De Benedetto wants to reach Marseille to join lover / concubine abandoning wife and children. De Benedetto has a regular passport which a withdrawal is requested.


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Sometimes during war or troubled times civil records were destroyed to conceal the true ages or existence of males in the community who were of age to be in the military. Many passport files held by the police or Questura were destroyed to to lack of storage facilities. There are a few years available in Naples and a list for a couple of years (but no documents) in Frosinone.
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What are you looking for?

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There are missing records...from about 1854 - 1869. I am looking for those records...but I also want to document the destruction of the records. Any ideas?
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After the unification of Italy (and even before during the 1800s in the parts of Italy under Napoleon's rule), registries of civil status (births, deaths and marriages) were made in duplicate, with one copy of each sent to the "Prefettura" in the provincial capital, and afterwards trasfered to the National Archives (Archivio di Stato).

Therefore burning the vital records stored in the City Hall in the hope of evading police control in the 1920s would have been a moot point, not only because the lost records could be reconstructed from the copies kept in the Prefettura, but also because male births were also registered in the "liste di leva", which were sent to the "distretto militare" for draft recruitment purposes.
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