town of birth

[dmt1955]

the avitrees website has been down for quite some time...any thoughts on the town of birth? do you know of other websites similar to avitrees?


many thanks,
donna

[erudita74]

Donna
The second part is "di Basilicata." Until 1926, all of the towns in Lucania were in the province of Basilicata. Then the region was divided into the provinces of Potenza and Matera. I can't find any town in either of these provinces which looks like the spelling in your record.
Erudita

[dmt1955]

e - i appreciate your effort. i read the first part as R- or P- izzilli. Do you see something different? 'di Basicilata' brings me closer than where I was. thanks again.
donna

[erudita74]

Donna
I was originally considering Pizzilli, but all I have been able to find is the following, which was not in Basilicata, as far as I know:

La frazione di Pizzilli fa parte del comune di Santa Croce del Sannio, in provincia di Benevento, nella regione Campania.

[dmt1955]

thanks again....

[erudita74]

Basilicata

The link below shows the four districts of the province of Basilicata and the names of the towns in each district. Nothing close to what appears in your record. (pp.89 and top of p. 90). I also considered that the town in the record started with the letter G, but that hasn't helped.

https://books.google.com/books?id=lc0xQ ... ta&f=false

[dmt1955]

your thoroughness is not only appreciated but inspiring. thanks so much.

[erudita74]

Donna
What's the name of the person in the record born in the mystery town?
Erudita

[dmt1955]

Porzia Bevilacqua, age 60, wife of Crescenzo Badetta? Borletta?, contadina. parents' names left blank.

[AngelaGrace56]

Hi Donna

Bevilacqua is a name that appears in both Potenza and Matera, region of Basilicata. Are you able to post the full record?

Angela

[erudita74]

Donna
I did a search of surnames on the antenati website last night before I went to bed and, oddly enough, there are two individuals with the name Porzia Bevilacqua which come up for the town of Trani in Bari Province but that doesn't help with Basilicata. Bevilacqua was the surname of the grandmother of my great grandfather's second wife who was from the town of Stigliano, currently in Matera Province, but in Potenza prior to 1926. So I have quite a repertoire in my database of individuals with that surname, but no Porzia. Her paternal grandmother was a Barbetta married to a Bevilacqua, so possibly Barbetta is the surname of Crescenzo, but without seeing that part of the record, I can't say for sure. I traced this Bevilacqua and Barbetta family ancestries back to the town of Miglionico (the late 1700s, early 1800s). Sorry that this doesn't really help with deciphering the town name in your record.

Here's a crazy idea-maybe the town just got the spelling wrong since the individual was not a native of the town -there's a frazione called Gallizzi-so maybe the clerk put the zz where the ll should have been and vice versa

Gallizzi fa parte del comune di Viggianello, in provincia di Potenza, nella regione Basilicata.

[dmt1955]

https://postimg.org/image/lxysjtfmz/

Attached is the record 1832 death act #362. this is not my ancestry. i am transcribing the 1809-1910 civil acts of ariano. i want to be as accurate as possible in the database. ironic if in some way it is related to erudita!!

angela and erudita...sorry for a delayed response. sadly, i have to work to support my genealogy habit.

donna

[erudita74]

Donna
Now that I've studied the handwriting in the entire record, I've eliminated P and G as the initial letter in the town name. I strongly suggest that, since you have access to other records in this batch, you search for another record written by the same clerk to see if you can find a matching initial letter. Even if the initial letter is an R, that still doesn't help with determining the town name. Maybe it's not so much a town name as it is a region within the region, if that makes sense. I just can't figure out what it could be, and I've been searching all over the internet for a clue. As to Crescenzo's surname, I believe it is Barletta. All of the d's in this record have that curve to the left at the top. There is no d in his surname.

I applaud your efforts to accurately decipher these records for the database, as I know how frustrating it is to see extractions of records where the spellings are completely off or misleading. Maybe Angela has another idea, as I'm at a complete loss with this one. Sorry.

Erudita

[dmt1955]

you have offered more than enough effort for this. thank you. this would not be the first entry in the database in which i placed a '?' to indicate uncertainty.

d

[AngelaGrace56]

Thank you for posting the entire record, Donna. I have absolutely no idea what the name of the town is, and like Erudita, over the last few days since your initial post, have checked all over the internet, other info that I have etc. I read "?izzilli" clearly. It seems like the clerk possibly started to write Ariano because it looks like there is an "A" there which has been overwritten with another letter - how many letters have a tail though? I'm stumped. Sorry. Wish I could be of more help. Will keep an eye out though. I'm always looking at records from the province of Potenza. I've noticed that there are quite a few marriages from outside the region and your region comes up a bit.

Take care.

Angela

BTW: Just ignore this attachment. I've posted it and now can't remove it. Sorry. Long story.