Sicilian church record town of origin

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Sicilian church record town of origin

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https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=2046915

Middle right, marraige between Giuseppe and Castrenza Vitali in Monreale, Sicily. I believe the surname is Zingone but can't seem to find it anywhere (i.e. Castrenza's baptism or her parents' marriage). Is anyone able to make out what town the bride and her family are from? (where it says cittia ed auuto???) Thanks!
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Bride: It says "of this above city" meaning Monreale
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erudita74 wrote: 05 May 2021, 17:43 Bride: It says "of this above city" meaning Monreale
Once again thank you for your help. However I wasn’t able to find the surname “Zingone” for the bride, any siblings, or her parents in the Monreale records. I guess I will look harder or possibly the surname I have is incorrect.
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https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=2046915

In the index above, I see a Castrenza Rosa Zinguni (this is what the spelling looks like to me in the index). Jan 22, 1736

There's another child born to this same couple in 1741-Vincenza Giuseppa Zingone-10/14/1741

Castrenza below-bottom left

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erudita74 wrote: 06 May 2021, 00:24 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=2046915

In the index above, I see a Castrenza Rosa Zinguni (this is what the spelling looks like to me in the index). Jan 22, 1736

There's another child born to this same couple in 1741-Vincenza Giuseppa Zingone-10/14/1741

Castrenza below-bottom left

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=2046915
Thank you so much!! Are you able to find the marriage between the parents Bartolomeo and Paolina?
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According to the baptism record of Castrenza Rosa Giacoma in 1736, her parents were a married couple of Palermo. I believe it also says that they were living in Monreale, but someone else can verify this. I don't see their marriage record in Monreale. The sister Vincenza Giuseppa Castrenza Gaetana was born on Oct 13, 1741, even though the record is dated the 14th. Here's a link to the sister's record:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=2046915

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erudita74 wrote: 06 May 2021, 17:02 According to the baptism record of Castrenza Rosa Giacoma in 1736, her parents were a married couple of Palermo. I believe it also says that they were living in Monreale, but someone else can verify this. I don't see their marriage record in Monreale. The sister Vincenza Giuseppa Castrenza Gaetana was born on Oct 13, 1741, even though the record is dated the 14th. Here's a link to the sister's record:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=2046915

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Interesting... regardless, thank you for the input and assistance!
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I tried to find the death records of Bartolomeo and Paolina in Monreale but no luck. I was hoping the death records might give their places of birth and a clue to the place of their marriage.

I did find a marriage of a son of theirs named Giovanni (surname spelled as Zingone). He married a Rosa Termine on May 2, 1762. Unfortunately, the record just says his parents were of Monte (Monreale).

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erudita74 wrote: 06 May 2021, 23:10 I tried to find the death records of Bartolomeo and Paolina in Monreale but no luck. I was hoping the death records might give their places of birth and a clue to the place of their marriage.

I did find a marriage of a son of theirs named Giovanni (surname spelled as Zingone). He married a Rosa Termine on May 2, 1762. Unfortunately, the record just says his parents were of Monte (Monreale).

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That certainly is odd. I wonder where Giovanni’s baptism is then? Thank you again!
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Unfortunately, Giovanni's marriage record does not give his place of birth. I would assume he was born and baptized in another town in the province, but the church records for the other province towns appear to be lacking indices, so I can't really help you further with this research. Sorry.

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erudita74 wrote: 08 May 2021, 14:41 Unfortunately, Giovanni's marriage record does not give his place of birth. I would assume he was born and baptized in another town in the province, but the church records for the other province towns appear to be lacking indices, so I can't really help you further with this research. Sorry.

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I gotcha. I would assume it took place in his parent’s marriage town, or at least close to it. Your help is greatly appreciated Erudita!
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I have located Paolina's death record in Monreale and will post the link when I'm on my computer-hopefully later today.

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erudita74 wrote: 12 May 2021, 17:27 I have located Paolina's death record in Monreale and will post the link when I'm on my computer-hopefully later today.

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Thank you very much..!
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https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=2046915

Polina Zinguno, wife of deceased Bartolomeo Zinguno. Daughter of deceased Salvadore and Sebastiana Niscozia (sp?) of Monte. I believe this surname should be either Nicosia or Nicocia. I see it spelled both ways in the indices. The parents were of Monte (Monreale). Polina was about age 80 at death. She died on April 1, 1783. So, her birth would have been about 1703, if her age at death is somewhat accurate, but I haven't located her baptism record, at least not yet. Her burial was in the Cemetery of the Poor.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=2046915

Giovanni Zanghino, son of deceased Bartolomeo and Paolina Zanghino of Monreale, age 50, buried in the church of Sant’Antonio Abate. Date Sept 22, 1793, so birth abt 1743. His place of birth not given in the record.
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erudita74 wrote: 12 May 2021, 22:15 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=2046915

Polina Zinguno, wife of deceased Bartolomeo Zinguno. Daughter of deceased Salvadore and Sebastiana Niscozia (sp?) of Monte. I believe this surname should be either Nicosia or Nicocia. I see it spelled both ways in the indices. The parents were of Monte (Monreale). Polina was about age 80 at death. She died on April 1, 1783. So, her birth would have been about 1703, if her age at death is somewhat accurate, but I haven't located her baptism record, at least not yet. Her burial was in the Cemetery of the Poor.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=2046915

Giovanni Zanghino, son of deceased Bartolomeo and Paolina Zanghino of Monreale, age 50, buried in the church of Sant’Antonio Abate. Date Sept 22, 1793, so birth abt 1743. His place of birth not given in the record.
Thanks again erudita. I tried searching for her baptism as well but nothing as of yet. Also nothing regarding Salvatore and Sebastiana's marriage. It's also interesting that The "Zingone" surname in every record is spelled differently.
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