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Re: Casalvecchio di Puglia

Post by NickAndreola » 25 Jun 2019, 15:05

Hi Cousin,

You are going to have to take lots of notes when you get into our Casalvecchio/Milford families --everyone connects in multiple times/ways. For instance, the branch that mmogno tied to last:
Nov 28, 1870 marriage of Giovannatonio Petrella to Domenica Maria Venditti
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=2043436

Domenica's parents were
Name: Domenica Maria
Christening Date: 29 Dec 1845
Christening Place: CIVILE, CASALVECCHIO DI PUGLIA, FOGGIA, ITALY
Birth Date: 28 Dec 1845
Father's Name: Michele Venditti
Mother's Name: Anna Maria Lupo
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XKSC-BXN

They were married in 1833---note who Michele Venditti's mother was!
Name: Michele Venditti
Birth Date: 1809
Birthplace: Casalvecchio
Age: 24
Spouse's Name: Anna Maria Lupo
Spouse's Birth Date: 1809
Spouse's Birthplace: Casalvecchio
Spouse's Age: 24
Event Date: 08 Dec 1833
Event Place: Civile, Casalvecchio Di Puglia, Foggia, Italy
Father's Name: Alberto
Mother's Name: Domenica Beccia
Spouse's Father's Name: Giovanni
Spouse's Mother's Name: Maddalena Amorosa
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XKQB-MFX

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Re: Casalvecchio di Puglia

Post by NickAndreola » 25 Jun 2019, 15:13

Spotted some red flags on my quick review---Their are TWO Michele Beccia's of near the same age living in Milford.

The WWII you noted is most likely for the OTHER MIchele with birth listed as
11 Jan 1895----
Michele Beccia (29) married Jenny COCCOI (24) on Nov 26,1925 in Milford. 1st for both.
Michele and Jennie on the 1940 living with Jenny's family Pacifico & Antoinette COSCIA
This Michele's WWII draft shows Jennie Beccia as his 'person' (14 1/2 Mt. Pleasant St.)

Your Michele married Anna DelSignore May 21,1922
Michele & Anna with Louis (0) on the 1930 at Beach St.
Alfred born June 8, 1935 to Michele & Anna DelSignore.
Michele & Anna with Louis (11) Nicholas (7) and Alfred (5) on the 1940

The fact that their first born (known) was Louis tends to connect this Michele to the birth record mmogno linked earlier.

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Re: Casalvecchio di Puglia

Post by NickAndreola » 25 Jun 2019, 15:33

Michele Beccia--spouse Jenny Coscia
BIRTH 12 Jan 1895
Italy
DEATH 1 Mar 1974 (aged 79)
Milford, Worcester County, Massachusetts, USA
BURIAL
Sacred Heart Cemetery
Milford, Worcester County, Massachusetts, USA
PLOT Section 3 Lot 47 #3
MEMORIAL ID 149356117

The other Michele?

Age: 79
Given Name: Michele
Surname: Beccia
Birth Date: 16 Aug 1894
State: Massachusetts
Last Place of Residence: Worcester, Massachusetts
Event Date: Jan 1973

Name: Michele Beccia
Event Type: Death
Event Date: 4 Jan 1973
Event Place: Milford, Worcester, Massachusetts, United States
Birthplace: Other
Certificate Number: 002343

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Re: Casalvecchio di Puglia

Post by mmogno » 25 Jun 2019, 15:44

Birth of Maria Grazia Beccia, Michele's sister, on Mar 5, 1892 in Casalvecchio.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... 6&cat=1027

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Re: Casalvecchio di Puglia

Post by NickAndreola » 25 Jun 2019, 15:50

mmogno,

I'm still not sure if the 1895 Michele is the correct one.......

Michele born Dec 23, 1893 parents Enrico Arturo Maria & Cristina De Salvia ("until recently he said he thought Michele Beccia's parents were named Enrique and Angela"---????)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=2043436
no michele in 1894--but Mario Leonido Giovanni Michele born May 8, 1894 to Giuseppe & Maria Louisa Canelli
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=2043436
only the one mmogno listed in 1895
no michele in 1896
no michele in 1897
Michele Beccia born Oct 11 1898 parents Saverio & Angela Maria Cutaio
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=2043436
no michele in 1899
Michele born May 8, 1900 to Nicolandrea & Maria Giuseppa Masulli
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=2043436

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Re: Casalvecchio di Puglia

Post by NickAndreola » 25 Jun 2019, 16:14

In fact, now I'm becoming more certain......more research needed to be sure....

Michele Beccia
BIRTH 16 Aug 1894
Italy
DEATH 4 Jan 1973 (aged 78)
Milford, Worcester County, Massachusetts, USA
BURIAL
Sacred Heart Cemetery
Milford, Worcester County, Massachusetts, USA
PLOT Section 6 Lot 126
MEMORIAL ID 196067787
Widower of Anna R. (DelSignore) Beccia who died in Milford, Massachusetts on April 11, 1967.
Born in Italy the son of Louis and Filomena (Parente) Beccia. where is this info found?
Michele was a U.S. Army Veteran of World War One.https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/196 ... ele-beccia


Anna R. DelSignore Beccia
BIRTH 1903
Clinton, Worcester County, Massachusetts, USA
DEATH 11 Apr 1967 (aged 63–64)
Milford, Worcester County, Massachusetts, USA
BURIAL
Sacred Heart Cemetery
Milford, Worcester County, Massachusetts, USA
PLOT Section 6 Lot 126
MEMORIAL ID 196067874

Their son Louis linked as well...

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Re: Casalvecchio di Puglia

Post by NickAndreola » 25 Jun 2019, 16:52

AHA!
After reading through the Casalvecchio records and then seeing the note for the mother, Filomena PARENTE, I knew I needed to look elsewhere and sure enough....
Born August 16, 1894 NOT in Casalvecchio but in neighboring commune Casalnuovo Monterotaro! His parents were Luigi (fu Nicola) 32 years old and Filomena PARENTE (di Michele) 27 years old. https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=2043436

I can send you my shortcut sheets for Casalnuovo Monterotaro if you want to continue on your adventure! I'd be happy to give you some assistance in using them as well.

Excellent work mmogno! We all know that rule-outs are just as important as rule-ins! 8) and now there are TWO Michele Beccia families that have deeper insight into their ancestry because of your efforts!

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Re: Casalvecchio di Puglia

Post by NickAndreola » 11 Jul 2019, 13:06

I've recently retired from work and am devoting some of my new free time into my passion for genealogy. I've just located a Family History Center that is near enough to visit and have started going through the 1810-1865 Casalvecchio films.

Its great that they are available but it is kind of a PITA to not be able to go immediately to a file and answer a question on one of my late nite research sessions....instead just make a note and look the next time I can go to the FHC....

The first film I'm reviewing (1225 pages) appears to have mostly marriages, however things are a little jumbled and it starts with 1865 Morte records and then goes to 1810 Marriages. So far the 1814 & 1815 marriages are missing, the 1816 marriages has no index and only partial records but most of the other years seem solid.

I've copied the 1865 Morte index and all the marriage indexes found so far through 1830 and will copy all else I find on the film (only ~25% thru so far). This time period's indexes are in a different format than the 1866-1910's and contain more information directly on the index.

If any of you has any desire for a copy of a specific index--I'd be happy to send it to you.

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Re: Casalvecchio di Puglia

Post by NickAndreola » 19 Jul 2019, 13:13

I've finished looking through and saving copies of the indexes for the 1809-1854 Marriages film at the FHC.

If you go to a FHC, you can 'paste & go' directly to this film with this link:
https://www.familysearch.org/search/film/007965412

Some notes to help navigate this film a little more quickly.

Page 6-9 are indexes for 1865 DEATHS--records follow thru pg 51

Indexes for Marriages 1810 thru 1815 from pg 60-74--records for 1810 thru 1820 follow thru pg 224 (no indexes found for 1816-1820---this section is a little sketchy, the rest is much more orderly/organized)

Indexes for Marriages 1821 thru 1830 from pg 225-229--records follow thru pg 498

Indexes for Marriages 1831 thru 1840 from pg 499-528--records follow thru pg 824

Indexes for Marriages 1841 thru 1850 from pg 825-858--records follow thru pg 1093

Index for Marriages 1851 pg 1094--records follow thru pg 1131

Index for Marriages 1852 pg 1135--records follow thru pg 1169

Index for Marriages 1853 pg 1177--records follow thru pg 1198

Index for Marriages 1854 pg 1203--records follow thru end of film

I haven't found any earth shattering revelations yet but have significantly narrowed down some items I'm searching for--For instance my oldest known ancestors on the FINO line, Alesio FINO & Maria Giuseppa FERRUCCI's deaths have been honed down from 1819-1866 to Alesio's is between 1835-1841 and Maria Giuseppa's in between 1823-1836---so I guess that's something................

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Re: Casalvecchio di Puglia

Post by NickAndreola » 09 Aug 2019, 21:38

I've been doing a little more studying at the local Family History Center.
No one at this particular branch understood why the actual film #'s vs the web page's film # were different. For instance the link in the previous post says to film # 007965412 BUT to get to it by 'searching' for the actual film # you have to type in 001178117.......?

Without any answers to that, I started thrashing around a bit...really hoping to find some Casalvecchio MORTE records which would likely have some of the info I'm really in need of ...but no success and I only have this to share as a brief synopsis of whats been found so far;
Film #'s ---what they have
001178107 Casalnuovo Monterotaro Marriages
001178108 Casalnuovo Monterotaro Marriages
001178109 nothing came up in search
001178110 more Casalnuovo Monterotaro Marriages at the beginning thru to 1865-some Casalvecchio Births at the end.
001178111 Casalvecchio Births
001178112 Casalvecchio Births
001178113 Casalvecchio Births
001178114 Casalvecchio Births
001178115 nothing came up in search
001178116 nothing came up in search
001178117 Casalvecchio -see previous post
001178118 Casalvecchio Marriages 1855-1865 at the beginning-may be Foggia records at the end
001178119 Foggia (commune not province)
001178120 Foggia (commune not province)

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