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Elsie Jodscheidt

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Ok so my grandma was Elsie Jodscheidt and she married a Richard Stanley Snyder 1927.
My mom was born Johanna Louise Snyder.

However, Elsie in 1927 it appears was married to a Calvin Young.
On the picture attached in Family Search it doesn't show married but far right says spouse.

I would like to get marriage document for each.

Calvin Young had a a daughter in 1927 that was born Dorothy Young.

Please see what I found and would love to figure this out.

thanks in advance. I have done a lot on my Italian searches for my family but this is the US side
and very very convoluted.

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Re: Elsie Jodscheidt

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Hi,
Elsie Anna Jodscheidt was born on 1911:
Elsie Anna Jodscheidt
Illinois, Cook County, Birth Certificates
Name
Elsie Anna Jodscheidt
Event Type
Birth
Event Date
01 Jul 1911
Event Place
Melrose Park, Cook, Illinois, United States
Registration Date
25 Jun 1959
Registration Place
, Cook, Illinois
Gender
Female
Race
White
Father's Name
Herman Jodscheidt
Father's Birthplace
Germany
Mother's Name
Augusta Hanna Becker
Mother's Birthplace
Germany
Certificate Number
41252

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children
Name
Hannah Louise Snyder
Event Type
Birth
Event Date
24 Aug 1927
Event Place
Oak Park, Cook, Illinois, United States
Registration Date
02 Sep 1927
Registration Place
, Cook, Illinois
Gender
Female
Race
White
Father's Name
Richard Stanley Snyder
Father's Birthplace
Arizona
Father's Age
24
Father's Estimated Birth Year
1903
Mother's Name
Elsie Anna Jodscheidt
Mother's Birthplace
Melrose Park, Illinois
Mother's Age
18
Mother's Estimated Birth Year
1909
Certificate Number
1660

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marriage:

Elsie Jodscheidt
mentioned in the record of Richard Stanley Snyder and Elsie Jodscheidt
Name
Richard Stanley Snyder
Event Type
Marriage
Event Date
28 Mar 1927
Event Place
Cook, Illinois, United States
Gender
Male
Age
23
Birth Year (Estimated)
1904
Spouse's Name
Elsie Jodscheidt
Spouse's Gender
Female
Spouse's Age
17
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated)
1910
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children by second marriage

Name
Constance Anne Young
Event Type
Birth
Event Date
15 Dec 1938
Event Place
Cerro Gordo, Iowa, United States
Event Place (Original)
Cerro Gordo, Iowa, United States
Gender
Female
Father's Name
Calvin Young
Mother's Name
Elsie Jodscheidt
Record Number
21161


from Iowa, County Births
Name
Ronald Eugene Young
Event Type
Birth
Event Date
30 Jul 1940
Event Place
Cerro Gordo, Iowa, United States
Event Place (Original)
Cerro Gordo, Iowa, United States
Gender
Male
Father's Name
Calvin C Young
Mother's Name
Elsie A Jodscheidt
Record Number
21167

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1940 census:
Calvin C Young
United States Census, 1940
Name
Calvin C Young
Event Type
Census
Event Date
1940
Event Place
Ward 3, Mason City, Mason City Township, Cerro Gordo, Iowa, United States
Last Place of Residence
Same Place
Gender
Male
Age
35
Marital Status
Married
Race
White
Race (Original)
White
Birth Year (Estimated)
1905
Birthplace
Iowa
Relationship to Head of Household
Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original)
Head
Sheet Letter
B
Sheet Number
7
Digital Folder Number
005461443
Household
Role
Sex
Age
Birthplace
Calvin C Young
Head
M
35
Iowa
Elsi Young
Wife
F
31
Illinois
Dorothy C Young
Daughter
F
13
Illinois
Calvin C Young
Son
M
10
Illinois
Barbara J Young
Daughter
F
7
Iowa
Audrey L Young
Daughter
F
3
Iowa
Constance A Young
Daughter
F
1
Iowa
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... -G9M1-FX7G

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Calvin Young Death
Calvin Young
United States Social Security Death Index
Age
80
Given Name
Calvin
Surname
Young
Birth Date
25 Jun 1904
State
Iowa
Last Place of Residence
Cerro Gordo, Iowa
Previous Residence Postal Code
50401
Event Date
Apr 1984
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no info abt the second marriage....
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Re: Elsie Jodscheidt

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Thank you Suanj....appreciate this this had to be a lot of work on your part.
I will pass on to my sister. Our mother has passed away and my sister has been working on family genealogy for about 25 years. After mom passed, my sister vowed she would find the truth about her father. :)
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Re: Elsie Jodscheidt

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Suanj here is what we have in a marriage document for 1926 to an OLA Holt in Arizona.
Seems Stanley Richard Snyder was married in 1926 and went to Chicago where he married my
grand mother 1927.
Stanley S Snyder - Arizona, County Marriage Records, 1865-1972
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Looks like Stanley Snyder was married to two women.
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But on Illinois marriage record his name is Richard Stanley Snyder…
and this your recortd of Arizona marriage, seeeming referred to another person.. here Stanley and Ola in Arizona:
Stanly Snyder
United States Census, 1930

Household
Role
Sex
Age
Birthplace
Stanly Snyder
Head
M
26
Nevada
Ola Snyder
Wife
F
22
Texas

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=1810731
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Re: Elsie Jodscheidt

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Just got off the phone with my sister. She said she had the information you had however you got your information much faster what took her years took you just days. Your amazing.
She has issue with Richard Stanley Snyder and Stanley Snyder. Appear to be the same person but we're at a point we just don't know. Back then when they have documents they didn't require social security numbers. Also, if someone is going to do something they are not supposed to like get a minor pregnant and then marry someone when they are already married to someone else they usually will change their name.......look forward to hearing from you and once again thanks so much for responding.
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I believe that for a correct search, a similar name is not enough. To find out if he is the same person, you need to know the names of Richard S Snyder and Stanley Snyder's parents. If it is the same person, the parents' names must be identical.
Also, Richard S Snyder claims to have been born in Arizona, but in the 1930 census of Stanly Snyder, he claims to have been born in Nevada! Of course I understand that if one was a bigamist, he cheated on the data so as not to be recognized, not to be discovered.

On 1940 census, he stated to be born in Nebraska!!!
Stanley S Snyder
United States Census, 1940
Name
Stanley S Snyder
Event Type
Census
Event Date
1940
Event Place
Ward 5, Tucson, Supervisorial District 2, Pima, Arizona, United States
Last Place of Residence
Same Place
Gender
Male
Age
36
Marital Status
Married
Race
White
Race (Original)
White
Birth Year (Estimated)
1904
Birthplace
Nebraska
Relationship to Head of Household
Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original)
Head
Sheet Letter
A
Sheet Number
3
Digital Folder Number
005461867
Household
Role
Sex
Age
Birthplace
Stanley S Snyder
Head
M
36
Nebraska
Ola O Snyder
Wife
F
32
Texas
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... 1-GHZJ?i=4
and maybe this birthplace, Nebraska I mean, could be right.. I believe that this is Stanley on 1910 census:

Stanley S Snyder
United States Census, 1910
Name
Stanley S Snyder
Event Type
Census
Event Date
1910
Event Place
Precinct 5, Pueblo, Colorado, United States
Event Place (Original)
Precinct 5, , Colorado
Gender
Male
Age
6
Marital Status
Single
Race
White
Race (Original)
White
Birth Year (Estimated)
1904
Birthplace
Nebraska
Father's Birthplace
Iowa
Mother's Birthplace
Iowa
Relationship to Head of Household
Son
Relationship to Head of Household (Original)
Son
Sheet Letter
A
Sheet Number
4
Record Number
32936
Household
Role
Sex
Age
Birthplace
Edward A Snyder
Head
M
48
Iowa
Nancy E Snyder
Wife
F
43
Iowa
Julia E Snyder
Daughter
F
17
Nebraska
Lorena L Snyder
Daughter
F
13
Nebraska
Earl T Snyder
Son
M
11
Nebraska
Alda E Snyder
Daughter
F
9
Nebraska
Stanley S Snyder
Son
M
6
Nebraska
Charles E Snyder
Son
M
2
Nebraska

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=1727033
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and this burial could be of right Stanley Snyder:
https://it.findagrave.com/memorial/43919456
here the full name by WWII info:
Nome
Stanley Sylvester Snyder
wife:
Ola Stevenson
Birth:
14/12/1903 Loup City, Nebraska, USA
residence place:
1942 Tucson, Pima, Arizona, USA


Now remain to find the evidence that Richard S and Stanley S are same person… But in effects Richard S Snyder don't exist anymore …
BUT it looks like we're getting close…
I found a record, and I cannot see because I have not the world account abt a trip, os same Stanley Sylvester SNYDER that went in Canada

Passaggi di frontiera: dagli Stati Uniti al Canada, 1908-1935

Nome
Stanley Sylvester Snyder
Nascita
Loop City Nebiaska circa 1904
Arrivo
Manitoba, Canada 20/03/1920

sorry the record is in italian Language, but you can understand, he arrived in Manitoba, Canada on 20 Mar 1920

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Maybe this could be helpful:
enumerated on 5 jan 1920 and on 20 Mar 1920 he went in Manitoba, Canada, then, returned in USA… maybe in Chicago……….
Stanley Snider
United States Census, 1920
Name
Stanley Snider
Event Type
Census
Event Date
1920
Event Place
Cedar Rapids Ward 13, Linn, Iowa, United States
Event Place (Original)
Cedar Rapids Ward 13, Linn, Iowa, United States
Gender
Male
Age
17
Marital Status
Single
Race
White
Race (Original)
White
Birth Year (Estimated)
1903
Birthplace
Nebraska
Father's Birthplace
Iowa
Mother's Birthplace
Iowa
Relationship to Head of Household
Nephew
Relationship to Head of Household (Original)
Nephew
Sheet Letter
B
Sheet Number
3
Record Number
34166
sure to 100% that is the same Stanley, working at Rail Road shop
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=1488411
so he when returned in USA worked in this nort east area of USA…
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United States Census, 1920
Name
Stanley Snider
Event Type
Census
Event Date
1920
Event Place
Cedar Rapids Ward 13, Linn, Iowa, United States
Event Place (Original)
Cedar Rapids Ward 13, Linn, Iowa, United States
Gender
Male
Age
17
Marital Status
Single
Race
White
Race (Original)
White
Birth Year (Estimated)
1903
Birthplace
Nebraska
Father's Birthplace
Iowa
Mother's Birthplace
Iowa
Relationship to Head of Household
Nephew
Relationship to Head of Household (Original)
Nephew
Sheet Letter
B
Sheet Number
3
Record Number
34166
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