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Same Couple?

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Photo 1 is an identified couple at their wedding in 1914.
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Photo 2 is an unidentified man, on the left, and unidentified woman, on the right, at a wedding in 1919. There's another man standing between them.
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Are they the same couple five years later?
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I looked at both photos carefully, and it looks like the same couple to me.
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I am in agreement with BrownEyedGirl. Definitely the same 2 people.
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Thanks.

If you ignore the man's hair then there is similarity.

Even the difference in height matches, as well as the slight tilt of her head.
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I sent these photos to cousins who are husband and wife.

They don't think it's the same couple because (1) they don't think their appearances would change that much in five years and (2) the man's hairline appears to be receding more in the earlier photo.

I don't think it's a dramatic change, especially at that age 20s or so. But, the hairline is a more valid point to consider.
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By the way, at the time of the second photo, the woman in the first photo would have had a child and she'd be pregnant with another on the way. That could contribute to any change in appearance.
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I don't agree on either point. I think the hair is simply the way it is combed. The facial features and ear match IMHO. The woman to me has a very distinct overall appearance I see in both photos. I have photos of my own mother taken A YEAR apart that look like totally different people (but they are both her)...
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I tend to agree with you. I think the similarity is especially striking with the woman.

I've identified the couple in photo 1 and I know whose wedding it was in photo 2, so I need to figure out if there's any family connection between the couple in photo 1 and the bride and groom (not shown) in photo 2.
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MarcuccioV wrote: 10 Mar 2021, 01:19 I don't agree on either point. I think the hair is simply the way it is combed. The facial features and ear match IMHO. The woman to me has a very distinct overall appearance I see in both photos. I have photos of my own mother taken A YEAR apart that look like totally different people (but they are both her)...
I totally agree.
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My $0.02 - they look the same to me.
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mjclayton1 wrote: 11 Mar 2021, 05:51 My $0.02 - they look the same to me.
Thanks for your input.
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Looks like the same people in both photos to me, but I did try face recognition and got the following results though I believe the 2nd photo of the woman is not the best quality, reason for the reduced % of matching.
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Looking at the general face shape, mouths, and other similarities, I still say they are the same people. There is far more similarity than difference. At the VERY least, I would say the furthest apart they could be are siblings, but even that is a stretch...
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I've had only mixed results with face recognition software, they seem biased depending upon how different the photos are regarding ages, expressions, which way they're facing, etc.

To my eyes, the woman is a stronger match than the man.

I have these other photos of the people in the Photo 1. They are confirmed to be the same people, at much later ages.

What does your software say? How well do they match Photo 1 and Photo 2?
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As mentioned above, the woman in Photo 1 (1914) was pregnant at the time of Photo 2 (1919), after already having had one child. That could affect her appearance.

The man seems to have a very similar expression in these photos. especially around the mouth.

Using the paper trail, I've had no luck tying this couple to the bride and groom at the wedding in Photo 2. But, there may be a family tie to another guest (sister-in-law of the bride), but I can't sort it out completely.
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