Assunta (Tina) Piacentini (Cagnina) of Valmontone & NJ

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Assunta (Tina) Piacentini (Cagnina) of Valmontone & NJ

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Looking for any information on an Assunta (Tina) Piacentini (married name Cagnina). She was the mother of one of my DNA matches (based on research I’ve done).

She was born about 1924 In Valmontone (Lazio). She immigrated to New Jersey in 1947, where she married Frank Cagnina. She died in NJ in 1986.

I have Piacentini’s on both my grandparent’s branches – close on my Gf (his mother), & more distant on my Gm (her 2GGm).

I can’t seem to find any parental info on Assunta (which might help me in making the connection).

Since she was born in 1924, and the birth acts stop at 1920 in the Valmontone civil records, I’m at a roadblock.

None of the vital records I’ve found list names of her parents.

Can anyone help..?
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Re: Assunta (Tina) Piacentini (Cagnina) of Valmontone & NJ

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I checked the 1920 birth acts which show 8 Piacentini births with 8 different father's names. Piacentini was a popular name in Valmontone, at least a dozen families (maybe more), so it won't do any good to guess...
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Are you certain she was born in Valmontone?
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darkerhorse wrote: 17 Apr 2021, 04:38 Are you certain she was born in Valmontone?
Yes, multiple citations including ship manifests...
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Re: Assunta (Tina) Piacentini (Cagnina) of Valmontone & NJ

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https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... 3A24PL-RTN
Who is Angelo, a sibling you know of? Father perhaps? I see Piacentini born to an Angelo in 1919 and 1918. There is a marriage for one in 1913 #5. Getting site errors right now.
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Just write to the town for a copy of her birth record.
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rlw254 wrote: 17 Apr 2021, 10:04 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... 3A24PL-RTN
Who is Angelo, a sibling you know of? Father perhaps? I see Piacentini born to an Angelo in 1919 and 1918. There is a marriage for one in 1913 #5. Getting site errors right now.
Angelo could be either. Yes, Antenati has been having issues of late. It still may be a guessing game, as Angelo is a common name in Valmontone and as I mentioned, there were (and are) MANY Piacentini families there. I believe it's one of the most common surnames in the town...
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It IS a clue at least. I suppose the best plan of attack is to research any Angelo Piacentini I can find and see if the dots connect to any of mine...
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Re: Assunta (Tina) Piacentini (Cagnina) of Valmontone & NJ

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Have you ruled out her?

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Name: Assuntina Piacentini
Birth: 12 May 1924 - Piandelagotti, Modena, Emilia-Romagna, Italy
Death: 29 Dec 1992 - Piandelagotti, Modena, Emilia-Romagna, Italy
Parents: Angelo Piacentini, Maria Bulgarel
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I'm finding bits & pieces, but Antenati is fighting me. Not sure what is going on with their site, but it's frustrating. Obviously I'll have to continue at a later date when they get the issues fixed...
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darkerhorse wrote: 17 Apr 2021, 16:15 Have you ruled out her?

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Name: Assuntina Piacentini
Birth: 12 May 1924 - Piandelagotti, Modena, Emilia-Romagna, Italy
Death: 29 Dec 1992 - Piandelagotti, Modena, Emilia-Romagna, Italy
Parents: Angelo Piacentini, Maria Bulgarel
Yes. Wrong part of Italy. Only the year of birth matches. I may be on the right track with searches on Antenati, but their server is so messed up it's nearly impossible until they get it fixed.
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Re: Assunta (Tina) Piacentini (Cagnina) of Valmontone & NJ

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It's also difficult with all the different Piacentini lines just within Valmontone alone. Over a dozen, & names often repeat. The Antenati issues aren't helping.
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My guess is her grandfather (Ernesto Piacentini, father of Angelo) MAY have been my GGm's brother. But his death act page (which would list his parent's names) won't come up. She and my mother would have been born 1-year apart so the dates line up pretty well.

But it could just as well be only indirectly related...
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Revisiting this old thread again.

I'm still seeking parentage and beyond for Assunta Piacentini looking for a family connection. She was born on Dec 9, 1923 in Valmontone. Ship manifest shows father's name as Angelo. No birth records for Valmontone post-1920.

I can only find 2 marriages for Angelo Piacentini's, both in 1924. Several surnames from wives/mothers in both cases are surnames in my family tree, but no direct descendants as yet.

I need a new set of eyes to look into this -- mine are crossed. Any assistance appreciated.
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Re: Assunta (Tina) Piacentini (Cagnina) of Valmontone & NJ

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https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVP2-1CHT
This obituary gives two siblings, Natalia Cianni and Enrico [Piacentini]
https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/526176780/ see OCR for Nina -> Natalia (mistake from auto-indexing I imagine)

http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... ewsIndex=0
Natalia Piacentini born in Valmontone 26 May 1918 to parents Angelo Piacentini, 35, and Concetta Mattia. Gives annotation for marriage to Aldo Cianni. This is definitely her sister and now you have the parents' names.
http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... 7.jpg.html
Parents both still alive by 1941, unless Angelo died 1941-1945 you'll need to find their marriage

Here it is
http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... 0.jpg.html
He is the son of Luigi, deceased, and an unknown mother

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... 3A24RT-SSD
If this is Enrico's wife then she seems to also have been a Cagnina

http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... ewsIndex=0
Angelo Piacentini born "32 July" (corrected later to 6th) 1883 to Luigi Piacentini, 47, and an woman to whom he was not married

http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... ewsIndex=0
Concetta Mattia born 16 Feb 1881 to parents Giovanni Mattia, 39, and an unmarried woman. The mother was later named as Carolina Calvano on the marriage record above, they may have married after Concetta was born.

http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... ewsIndex=0
Possible death for Luigi Piacentini. Didn't really see any others that fit the bill through 1911.
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