Researching the family of Joseph Zingales, born Dec 8, 1891
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Researching the family of Joseph Zingales, born Dec 8, 1891
I am trying to find the parents and previous generations of Joseph Zingales, who was born on December 8, 1891 in Mirto, Messina, Sicily and died August 31, 1976 in Brooklyn, New York. He emigrated on July 21, 1913.
He married Sarah Castrovinci (1901-1986) on September 2, 1926. He was naturalized on May 13, 1939, but I can't find the documents for that. I would very much like to have those. He was in the WWI and II draft cards, but I wasn't able to get anything out of the WWI document as far as his family goes. I already know quite a bit about the Castrovinci side of the family. Thank you.
He married Sarah Castrovinci (1901-1986) on September 2, 1926. He was naturalized on May 13, 1939, but I can't find the documents for that. I would very much like to have those. He was in the WWI and II draft cards, but I wasn't able to get anything out of the WWI document as far as his family goes. I already know quite a bit about the Castrovinci side of the family. Thank you.
Re: Researching the family of Joseph Zingales, born Dec 8, 1
Hi:
Index to Petitions for Naturalization filed in New York City, 1792-1989
about Giuseppe Zingales
Name: Giuseppe Zingales
Birth Date: abt 1892
Age: 47
Naturalization Date: 13 May 1939
Residence: New York, New York
Title and Location of Court: New York Southern District
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/9521/zingales.jpg
Selected U.S. Naturalization Records - Original Documents, 1790-1974 (World Archives Project)
about Giuseppe Zingales
Name: Giuseppe Zingales
State: New York
Court Type: District Court
Court Location: Southern District, New York
Naturalization Record Type: Petition for Naturalization
Naturalization Record Number: 320896
Roll Description: (Roll 1012) Petition No. 267583 - Petition No. 267966
Archive: National Archives, Washington, D.C.
Collection Title: Petitions for Naturalization from the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York, 1897-1944
Archive Series: M1972
Archive Roll: 1172
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/1106/zingales1.jpg
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Index to Petitions for Naturalization filed in New York City, 1792-1989
about Giuseppe Zingales
Name: Giuseppe Zingales
Birth Date: abt 1892
Age: 47
Naturalization Date: 13 May 1939
Residence: New York, New York
Title and Location of Court: New York Southern District
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/9521/zingales.jpg
Selected U.S. Naturalization Records - Original Documents, 1790-1974 (World Archives Project)
about Giuseppe Zingales
Name: Giuseppe Zingales
State: New York
Court Type: District Court
Court Location: Southern District, New York
Naturalization Record Type: Petition for Naturalization
Naturalization Record Number: 320896
Roll Description: (Roll 1012) Petition No. 267583 - Petition No. 267966
Archive: National Archives, Washington, D.C.
Collection Title: Petitions for Naturalization from the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York, 1897-1944
Archive Series: M1972
Archive Roll: 1172
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/1106/zingales1.jpg
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Re: Researching the family of Joseph Zingales, born Dec 8, 1
Thank you very much for putting those documents up. How do I find out about his parents? I know they emigrated to the U.S. also. I think he talked about supporting his mother on the WWI Draft Card, which probably means his father was already dead.
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Re: Researching the family of Joseph Zingales, born Dec 8, 1
WWI and WWII draft registration cards.
See this thread ( http://italiangenealogy.com/Forums/viewtopic/t=15686/ ) for info on how to obtain a (most likely) better copy of the WWI card.
http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz12 ... lesWW1.jpg
http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz12 ... esWWII.jpg
See this thread ( http://italiangenealogy.com/Forums/viewtopic/t=15686/ ) for info on how to obtain a (most likely) better copy of the WWI card.
http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz12 ... lesWW1.jpg
http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz12 ... esWWII.jpg
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Re: Researching the family of Joseph Zingales, born Dec 8, 1
The best way to get info on Giuseppe's parents would be to write to Mirto and request his birth certificate.
Ufficio dello Stato Civile
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Email: comunemirto@comune.mirto.me.it (remove the spaces)
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http://italiangenealogy.com/Forums/viewtopic/t=15162/
Ufficio dello Stato Civile
Comune di Mirto
Via Ugo Bassi
98070 Mirto ME
ITALY
Email: comunemirto@comune.mirto.me.it (remove the spaces)
Tips on writing letters in Italian:
http://www.circolocalabrese.org/resourc ... /index.asp
http://www.angelfire.com/ok3/pearlsofwi ... tter3.html
http://italiangenealogy.com/Forums/viewtopic/t=15162/
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Re: Researching the family of Joseph Zingales, born Dec 8, 1
Thank you. So the WWI document never actually had the name of his mother. How do I go about finding his parents? I've tried searching the Census before without luck. With quite a few things in researching this family tree, I'm the one finding things out, or someone gives me a few names and I take it from there. I can't think of who would know about Giuseppe Zingales, at least of people that I know.
I can't really afford to order birth documents right now, unfortunately. But then, there are so many things I would like to get if I could. And so many branches of the family that I would want to do that for, with both birth and death documents. I wonder if it's possible that someone already has that stuff in the family.
I can't really afford to order birth documents right now, unfortunately. But then, there are so many things I would like to get if I could. And so many branches of the family that I would want to do that for, with both birth and death documents. I wonder if it's possible that someone already has that stuff in the family.
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Our posts crossed in the mail. See above about writing for Giuseppe's birth certificate.
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Are there any other naturalization records for Giuseppe Zingales, like the Oath of Allegiance, Declaration of Intention, or Certificate of Arrival? If so, would it be possible to please put those up so that I can download them and add them to the family tree?
I think this naturalization petition is the first one where I'm noticing mistakes. It had Sarah's year of birth wrong and also was totally wrong with her emigration date by two years. I guess it's a good thing I'm not relying on this document to find out about her.
I think this naturalization petition is the first one where I'm noticing mistakes. It had Sarah's year of birth wrong and also was totally wrong with her emigration date by two years. I guess it's a good thing I'm not relying on this document to find out about her.
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Certificate of Arrival: http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz12 ... rrival.jpg
Declaration of Intent: http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz12 ... Intent.jpg
Declaration of Intent: http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz12 ... Intent.jpg
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Oath of Allegiance (this is actually the backside of the Petition for Naturalization form): http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz12 ... esOath.jpg
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Keep in mind that a surprisngly large number of our ancestors made more than one trip to the US and, for naturalization purposes, the trip that "counts" was the last one.siskojnash wrote: I think this naturalization petition is the first one where I'm noticing mistakes. It had Sarah's year of birth wrong and also was totally wrong with her emigration date by two years. I guess it's a good thing I'm not relying on this document to find out about her.
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Re: Researching the family of Joseph Zingales, born Dec 8, 1
It says in this declaration of intention that Giuseppe Zingales made a previous one on July 5, 1918 in Somerset County, New Jersey, number 1038. Is that one available anywhere? I wonder if that one could have clues about his family.
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That other document said that Sarah emigrated in 1902, when in fact it was 1904 with her mother. That was the first time I had seen a mistake like that. The birth year said she was born in 1900 instead of 1901, but had the rest right.
Aside from this document, if there was a mistake at all, the date of arrival might be a day off, at least with the documents I've seen. Thank you so much for posting these documents. I really love these ones where there is an actual photo of a person. I haven't come across many like that.
Aside from this document, if there was a mistake at all, the date of arrival might be a day off, at least with the documents I've seen. Thank you so much for posting these documents. I really love these ones where there is an actual photo of a person. I haven't come across many like that.
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It wasn't easy to find, but here is Giuseppe's 1913 Ancona manifest. In the ancestry . com index, he is listed as "Giuseppe Tanabe".
He is on line 22; it's really neat that under "Marks of Identification" it says he has a scar on his forehead, which ties in with his WWII draft card above.
Manifest, page 1: http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz12 ... tpage1.jpg
Manifest, page 2: http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz12 ... tpage2.jpg
He is on line 22; it's really neat that under "Marks of Identification" it says he has a scar on his forehead, which ties in with his WWII draft card above.
Manifest, page 1: http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz12 ... tpage1.jpg
Manifest, page 2: http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz12 ... tpage2.jpg
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Re: Researching the family of Joseph Zingales, born Dec 8, 1
Thank you so much for doing that! I didn't even realize until this moment that I had somehow missed searching for that one! Do you think the previous Declaration of Intention for New Jersey in 1918 is online somewhere? Would that one talk about his family? Probably not, right?
I can't tell on the first page of the passenger list. Does it give his mother's name in Italy?
I can't tell on the first page of the passenger list. Does it give his mother's name in Italy?