Trafficante...New York City (Brooklyn? Manhatten?)

JamesBianco · Post by **JamesBianco** » 24 Mar 2005, 19:36

On the passenger ship list of my great grandmother, Giuseppa Marciano in 1920 she states she is coming to the United to visit her AUNT Antonina Trafficante, and also her fiancee Antonino Leone. I can't find this Antonina Anywhere, and am really trying to tie her into the family. If anyone ever heard of this woman Let me know!

Thanks
Jim Bianco

juanminbar · Post by **juanminbar** » 24 Mar 2005, 20:09

JamesBianco wrote:On the passenger ship list of my great grandmother, Giuseppa Marciano in 1920 she states she is coming to the United to visit her AUNT Antonina Trafficante, and also her fiancee Antonino Leone. I can't find this Antonina Anywhere, and am really trying to tie her into the family. If anyone ever heard of this woman Let me know!

Thanks
Jim Bianco

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do you know aunt antonina's maiden name. when she entered into america her papers listed her using her maiden name.

juanminbar

JamesBianco · Post by **JamesBianco** » 24 Mar 2005, 20:16

Unfortunately I don't, My great grandmother who was coming over's parents were both Marciano's so that is Antonina's likely surname. But Trafficante is not a name from her town of Carini, it's unheard of there, so I am thinking this aunt married in the USA.

Thanks Jim

wldspirit · Post by **wldspirit** » 24 Mar 2005, 23:21

Jim,
I assume you have tried to find the manifest for the aunt and the fiance?
could you post the manifest you did find? have you tried to locate them on census?
wldspirit

JamesBianco · Post by **JamesBianco** » 25 Mar 2005, 00:02

I found only the manifest, I havent found her in the census. Since my great grandmother came in February of 1920 you would think this woman would be in the census. See if this link to the manifest works...she is #15

http://ellisisland.org/search/shipManif ... 3372060075&

I dont know what else to do.
Thanks guys!

Jim

mfjp · Post by **mfjp** » 25 Mar 2005, 00:56

Hi gorgeous,

Do you have any Pignone or Mino relatives? I just checked the Boston manifests...

mfjp

brujaojos · Post by **brujaojos** » 25 Mar 2005, 01:07

JamesBianco wrote:On the passenger ship list of my great grandmother, Giuseppa Marciano in 1920 she states she is coming to the United to visit her AUNT Antonina Trafficante, and also her fiancee Antonino Leone. I can't find this Antonina Anywhere, and am really trying to tie her into the family. If anyone ever heard of this woman Let me know!

Thanks
Jim Bianco

Hi James,

I found the following in the 1920 census, but give me some more time to search around.

Manhattan, NY - 1920 census

John Trafficante, age 64
Mary A., age 60
Marco, son
Frank, son
Joseph, son

The only thing I like about that census that it was in Manhattan and that Mary had the "A".

In the 1920 census in Rome, NY

Antonette, age 27, widow
living with parents Nancy & Alex Procintto

Do you know an age for Antonia? I also found a few with the spouse's name as Anna.

What year was Antonino Leone born?

Have a great day!
Trish

JamesBianco · Post by **JamesBianco** » 25 Mar 2005, 01:20

Hey Maria

I don't think so..not yet found anyway.
And Trish...THANKS! That very well could be them, Manhatten yes that would be right. Hmmm....now to find out what her maiden name was. I should check the manifests for that couple.

I'll keep you guys posted..and if you have any more ideas..send 'em my way!

Jim

brujaojos · Post by **brujaojos** » 25 Mar 2005, 01:44

JamesBianco wrote:Hey Maria I don't think so..not yet found anyway.
And Trish...THANKS! That very well could be them, Manhatten yes that would be right. Hmmm....now to find out what her maiden name was. I should check the manifests for that couple.

I'll keep you guys posted..and if you have any more ideas..send 'em my way!

Jim

Hi Jim,

New York City Death Index

Name - Age - Date of Death - Certificate Number - County Soundex
Traficante John 68 y Dec 25 1926 31836 Manhattan T612 same guy
Traficonte John 68 y Dec 25 1926 31836 Manhattan T612 same guy

Traficante Anna M 53 y May 11 1921 12538 Manhattan T612

More info:

The Giovanni (John) and Mary A. that I mentioned before were married in Italy per the 1910 census for two of their children were born in Italy.

However, in the 1900 Census in Manhattan I found the following

Frank, born 1865
Anna M., born 1869
All the children were born in New York
Mark
Lesanda
Pasqualina
John
Tony
Joseph

Let me know what you think.
Trish

JamesBianco · Post by **JamesBianco** » 25 Mar 2005, 01:55

Oh wow Trish...thanks for that. I will have to order Anna M.'s. I can easily see how Antonina would be Anna in this country. Any suggestions on how to order those?

Sorry to be a pain.

Jim

wldspirit · Post by **wldspirit** » 25 Mar 2005, 02:13

1 Leone,Antonino Carini, Palermo 1910 16 104103020155
2 Leone,Giuseppe Carini 1905 17 102390021800
3 Leone,Grazia Carini, Sicily 1913 21 100793080021
4 Leone,Manfredi Carini, Sicily 1913 26 100634050229
5 Leone,Pietro Carini 1905 16 102482110398
6 Leone,Salvatore Carini, Palermo 1912 22 101040020160
7 Leone,Vincenzo Carini 1902 44 102740021010
8 Leone,Vincenzo Carini 1906 18 102237080556

Passenger records 1 to 8 out of 8 exact entries

For Leone coming from Carini.........
wldspirit

link:
http://stevemorse.org/goulnik/match1.ph ... e=1&fail=0

brujaojos · Post by **brujaojos** » 25 Mar 2005, 02:14

JamesBianco wrote:Oh wow Trish...thanks for that. I will have to order Anna M.'s. I can easily see how Antonina would be Anna in this country. Any suggestions on how to order those?

Sorry to be a pain.

Jim

Hi Jim,
Since you have the certificate number you can do one of two things, you can go through the list in the microfilm for the Certificate number. You have to scroll through several pages till you find the year and then the certificate number for NY.

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library ... =1&last=50

Vol. [26-27], cert. no. 12501-13500, 1921 FHL US/CAN Film
2027464

(I just put the correct link in there for the death certificate)

This is the link for the actual Death Indexes to New York City

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library ... =1&last=50

This is the link for New York City Vital Records and you can see that it might be easier to get a copy from the microfilm than from the State.
http://www.health.state.ny.us/vital_records/death.htm

It's very confusing but if you have questions, just ask.

Trish

wldspirit · Post by **wldspirit** » 25 Mar 2005, 02:24

As time consuming as it would be you could search the manifest and see if you are able to make any connection with regard to names or addresses, traveling companions...ect.
I pulled up 40+ Antonino Leone from south Italy.
Here is a link to all Trafficante:

http://stevemorse.org/goulnik/match1.ph ... e=1&fail=0

wldspirit

JamesBianco · Post by **JamesBianco** » 25 Mar 2005, 03:01

I am suspecting that she met him here, as Traficante is not a name from the Town she was born in (Carini). Plus as all the children appear to have been born in the USA this seems plausible. She must have been here very early.

Thanks for everything, I printed it and will order her death record.
This should clear up the mess. Hopefully it's her!

JamesBianco · Post by **JamesBianco** » 29 Feb 2008, 16:43

*Update* and maybe a clue to who Antonina Trafficante really was...

I was scanning in some documents and came across the marriage of my Giuseppa Marciano to her husband Antonino Leone. You will remember that when Giuseppa came over she mentioned an Aunt "Antonina Trafficante" (see above) WELL... on her marriage in Manhattan to my great-grandfather in 1920 one of the two witnesses was Gaetano Tropicante!!

here is the image:

Antonino Leone to Giuseppina Marciano 1920 NYC

This is another clue possibly as to who this woman was and how she was my great-grandmother's Aunt...

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