Searching for Angerame on 1910 census

[mcoccaro]

I have seem to hit a brick wall. I am searching for

Angelo Angerame (i) (o)Birth: September 27, 1885 Location: Buenos Aires, Argentina
Death: July 14, 1982 Location: Delmar, New York
and
Carmela Angerame (Carbone) Birth: October 1, 1886 Location: Italy Death: May 12, 1977 Location: Delmar, New York

They married in 1905 in NYC
By 1920 they were residing in Albany, NY.

They had two children before 1910 (Angeline & Catherine)

I am hunting for a few items Carmela's immigration record and where they were in 1910...

Any advice is appreciated.

Thank you!

[suanj]

hi,
1910:
1910 United States Federal Census
about Angelo Augarenna
Name: Angelo Augarenna
Age in 1910: 24
Estimated Birth Year: 1886
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
[Self (Head)]
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Spouse's Name: Connard Augarenna ( Carmela)
Home in 1910: Albany Ward 12, Albany, New York
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of immigration: 1900
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Angelo Augarenna 24
Connard Augarenna 24
Angelina Augarenna 3
Catherine Augarenna 1

the names are mispelled but the record is right...


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suanj

[pink67]

Considering this marriage record from Familysearch.org:

New York Marriages, 1686-1980

Groom's Name: Angelo Angerami
Groom's Birth Date:
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age:
Bride's Name: Carmela Carbone
Bride's Birth Date:
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age:
Marriage Date: 30 Apr 1905
Marriage Place: Manhattan, New York, New York
Groom's Father's Name: Domemico Angerami
Groom's Mother's Name: Angela Kobilossa
Bride's Father's Name: Leonard... Carbone
Bride's Mother's Name: Caterina Cozza
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status:
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M00595-4
System Origin: New_York-ODM
Source Film Number: 1558399
Reference Number:

then I believe this was the 1902 arrival manifest for Carmela, travelling with her father and brother:

26 may 1902:

Leonardo Carbone, age 52, male, married, coming from Montemurro and going to NYC to join his cousin Piro Antonino. Leonardo was travelling with his daughter Carmela, age 16, single and son Nicola age 13

http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0023

Laura

[suanj]

You know that Angelo, also if born in Argentina, the family coming from Montemurro( Potenza province, IT); Angelo came back in Italy and in 1900 emigrated in USA:
New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 about Angelo Angerame
Name: Angelo Angerame
Arrival Date: 30 Aug 1900
Birth Year: abt 1885
Age: 15
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race¬/Nationality: Italian
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Ems

joining at uncle Rocco Angerami( right surname spelling) in NY..
also Carmela Carbone coming from Montemurro and born in Montemurro; by marriage record the parent's names was:
Groom's Name: Angelo Angerami
Groom's Birth Date:
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age:
Bride's Name: Carmela Carbone
Bride's Birth Date:
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age:
Marriage Date: 30 Apr 1905
Marriage Place: Manhattan, New York, New York
Groom's Father's Name: Domemico Angerami
Groom's Mother's Name: Angela Kobilossa
Bride's Father's Name: Leonard... Carbone
Bride's Mother's Name: Caterina Cozza
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status:
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M00595-4

System Origin: New_York-ODM
Source Film Number: 1558399
Reference Number:

the family came in usa in 1902:
First Name: Carmela
Last Name: Carbone
Ethnicity: Italian
Last Place of Residence: Montemurro
Date of Arrival: May 26, 1902
Age at Arrival: 16y Gender: F Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Neckar
Port of Departure: Naples
Manifest Line Number: 0023
( on the manifest the age of Leonardo is wrong)
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0023

here the birthact of Carmela Carbone born in Montemurro on 1th oct 1886 daughter of Leonardo 37 old and Caterina Cozza


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suanj

[suanj]

ops Laura
I spent some minute for to find the Carmela birthact and I not see your post sorry!
suanj

[suanj]

marriage act of Angelo parents:
groom: Domenico Carmine Maria Angerami 28 old
bride: Angela Maria Robilotta 21 old
Montemurro 17 nov 1877


suanj

[suanj]

a trip abt Domenico Angerami, father of Angelo, with children Vincenzo and Battista ( no sailed)
First Name: Domenico
Last Name: Angerani
Ethnicity: Italy, Italian South
Last Place of Residence: Montemuras
Date of Arrival: Mar 08, 1904
Age at Arrival: 52y Gender: M Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Aurania (1883)
Port of Departure: Naples
Manifest Line Number: 0007

joining at son Angelo and brother Rocco angerami in New York;
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0007
suanj

[mcoccaro]

Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You are all the best! YAY!!!

[mcoccaro]

Your information is amazing! Yes although Angelo was born in Argentina he and his family's roots were from Montemurro, Italy.

[suanj]

happy of to help,
suanj

[pink67]

ops Laura
I spent some minute for to find the Carmela birthact and I not see your post sorry!
suanj

nessun problema Suanj, collaborare insieme qui è sempre un piacere...

Do you think this records may have been the 1905 NY Census for Domenico Angerami (Angelo's father) and family?:

New York State Census, 1905

Name: Dominick Angeroni
Residence: Manhattan, New York, New York
Age: 55
Estimated Birth Year: 1850
Birthplace: Italy
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Race: W
Gender:
Family Number: 530
Page Number: 63
Line Number: 26
Film Number: 1428423
Digital Folder Number: 4518298
Image Number: 00314
Household Gender Age
Dominick Angeroni M 55y
Lizzie Angeroni F 37y
Child Rocco Angeroni M 14y
Child Vincenzo Angeroni M 13y
Child John Angeroni M 11y

link to the image on the free site Familysearch.org

https://www.familysearch.org/search/ima ... 8298_00314

Laura

[suanj]

great find Laura, I am sure that is the right family; the trip of Vincenzo and Battista Angerami joining at Angelo brother, 73 Thompson st, New York:
First Name: Battista
Last Name: Augerani
Ethnicity: Italy, Italian
Last Place of Residence: Montemurro
Date of Arrival: Sep 02, 1903
Age at Arrival: 12y Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Liguria
Port of Departure: Napoli
Manifest Line Number: 0026

http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0026
hugs,
suanj

[Paolo47]

Hello,
I just wanted to add something to these finds by Laura, Suanj.
The surname spelling is a little different, but the Angerami family from Montemurro married into my Grande family in neighboring Armento.
Graziana Angerami married Luca Gregorio Grande abt 1820. Luca was my maternal 3rd great grandfather.
You can follow this line on my web site... http://www.paulflo.com/violaandgrande.html. You can also follow the Angerami from Montemurro....http://www.paulflo.com/Montemurro.html
All of my sources are noted in the Angerami, Grande and Catoggio trees.
Hope this helps you in your research,
Paul

[mcoccaro]

What a great find! I am definitely going to check out your website.
I wonder why his wife Angela wasn't with Domenico...

I found a website that states Domenico had the following children and perhaps a few others not on this list:
John
Rocchina
Carmine
Caterina
Domenica
Elisa
Amedeo
James
Angelo

(not in that order)- I am still trying to fact check this to see if this list is accurate...

[mcoccaro]

Or if Lizzie is his wife, perhaps Angela was no longer around or this is a different Domenico Angerame?

I have

Domenico Carmine Angerame married Angela Maria Robilotta
the branch I am following is their son Angelo Angerame who married Carmela Carbone who had John F. Angerame who married Rose Robilloto...