Hi everyone,
I know this post was originally made quite some time ago, however I think I need your help again. I currently have obtained all of the documents needed to apply for citizenship, but I have run into some issues including date and name discrepancies that may be cause for concern. Also, I have found that many of the agencies tend to be less than helpful when I submit any questions regarding the issues. Below is an email chain between me and the Italian Consulate in Miami. The text underlined in bold are the vague and barely useful responses from the Citizenship office:
On Jul 27, 2011, at 3:06 PM, Consolato Generale Miami wrote:
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 2:37 PM, Rosemary Love <rosemary.love@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
I am currently gathering vital records in order to apply for Italian Citizenship through jure sanguinis. I am applying through my great-grandfathers lineage and I had some questions regarding a few discrepancies I have found in names and dates. (discrepancies are bolded for your convenience)
G-Grandfather: I received this form in response to my request for a birth certificate. Will this suffice for the jure sanguinis process?
It was a large document so I could only scan half. The other half has the official seal of Capistrello. Note that his name is spelled Biagio Petroni and I believe this says he was born in May of 1891? NO, 19 MAY 1892
On his Marriage Certificate from 1919 he writes his name as Biaggio Petrone (but signs it as (Biaggio Pietrone)
On his naturalization paperwork from 1931 he goes as Biaggio Petrone and states he was born February 3, 1891 (he signs as Biaggio Petrone) WRONG DATE. THIS IS A PROBLEM AND SHOULD BE AMENDED OR HAVE SOMEBODY OFFICIALLY STATING THAT IT IS THE SAME PERSON THAT WAS BORN IN...ON...IN ITALY
His Death Certificate from 1975 lists him as Biaggio Pietrone and states his date of birth as February 3, 1890 AGAIN WRONG. LESS OF A PROBLEM, THOUGH. NATURALIZATION IS WHAT COUNTRS MOST. MAYBE IN THE DEATH CERT. THERE ARE OTHER ELEMENTS THAT SOMEHOW REFER TO HIM WITH CORRECT DATA?
Grandfather:
Born Guglielnio Pietroni on 09-29-1924 to Biagio Pietroni and Rosa Palmieri (my great-grandmother also went by Rose on her marriage and death records) ROSA/ROSE IS NOT A PROBLEM
Referred to as William James Pietrone on his 1948 marriage certificate to Doloris Grucci (who later went by Dolores on her death certificate) There is also a typo on this document:
thenty instead of twenty, is this something I have to have amended? NO
And finally, on my parent's marriage certificate:
No date of birth listed. Will this be a problem? YOU SHOULD GET THEIR MARRIAGE LICENCE TO HAVE MORE DATA
Thank you so much for your time. This is not the easiest process as I'm sure you know and I appreciate any advice you could give me.
Sincerely,
Rosemary Love
REGARDS. VIRGINIA VALORE, CITIZENSHIP OFFICE
Since then, I have also noticed some other date discrepancies upon the documents. I know that all of the compiled documents pertain to the correct person, however the dates have definitely been "fudged" over the years, including the dates upon my GGF Biaggio's Birth, Death and Naturalization records all varying in dates as well as Anglicization of both his first and last names.
Amazingly, during the process of my research I had to send a request to the town registrar in in my ggf's birthplace of Capistrello. The town registrar was delighted to respond that I had gotten quite lucky and he was in fact my cousin, and the family had been searching for any relatives in America after they lost contact with Biaggio some time after his immigration! So I do have someone in Italy with the means to assist me with italian documents.
For obvious reasons, I would like to be sure that I have everything ironed out without any issues to rear their ugly head after the long wait and related expenses during my appointment at the consulate. This process has been grueling thus far and I truthfully hope I haven't hit a true dead end, but when I have attempted to reach out to some of the state offices regarding these matters I receive cold, unhelpful responses and I am beginning to become discouraged.