Family in Friuli-Venezia Giulia

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My Great-Grandfather, Anton, came to America in 1913 from Trovo ob Soci, Slovenia (which is right over the mountains from Goricia, Friuli). Our surname, Fon, is unique even in Slovenia, and through Ellis Island and family land transfer records, I noticed that numerous family members had Italian names like Giuseppe, Francesco, ect and were located across the mountains in Friuli.

So, basically I'd like to search for records of any Fons from Goricia, Friuli. Can someone point me in any direction as where to begin? Through Archivio di Stato di Gorizia I found record of many Fons being born in Goricia in the early 1900s, including a few records like the following, which is a record of birth for a child with Anton Fon being listed as the father.

http://archiviodistatogorizia.benicultu ... 7210535499

However, there are numerous children being named Anton Fon in the records as well, it seems common for the time, so I have no way of knowing if the Father stated is my Great-Grandfather (B. 1885 or so) or not.

If anyone could suggest where I go from here it would be greatly appreciated.
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Welcome to the Forum!
We would be happy to see what we can do to help

You're right, identifying a family record in Gorizia (GO) that would be connected to your great grandfather Anton would be nearly impossible without more information: exact birth dates, parent's names, possible siblings, etc.

Have you found all of your US records? Often they contain valuable information and clues that can help in the search for records in other countries.

Thank you, Valarie

edit: deleted incorrect 1913 manifest
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deleted: wrong Anton Fon
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deleted: wrong Anton Fon
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Vj, thank you so much for your reply and research. That Anton Fon is not my great-grandfather, though I do believe they lived in the same city at the same time once (ha!). Here's the tricky thing; Anton was also known as Franz and Frank.

Here is his Ellis Island record
http://www.ellisisland.org/search/passR ... 0599010298

and here is his WWII Draft Card
http://fordear.webs.com/record_image.jpg
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Franz/Anton's father is listed as Johan(Ivann) in his Ellis Island file, and he's listed as having a brother Andrew(Andrea) still living back home in his obituary.
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Thank you for your quick response and the immigration and military record for your great grandfather :D
Is this your post on the ancestry messages boards?
http://boards.ancestry.com/thread.aspx? ... ia.general
There are some great responses for research in the Kobarid parish in Slovenia!
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Yes indeed. I have made good progress in my Slovenia research and I await their reply. Meanwhile, the search for Italian family members has begun!
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Not about your great grandfather, but I noticed this record was missing from your family pages on ancestry.
Is this is your great grandmother's sister?
Have you ordered her Social Security application?
It will include her parent's names (if you don't already have them). Cost is less than $30.
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SSDI
Name: Angeline Fon
SSN: 392-01-xxxx
Last Residence: 53207 Milwaukee, Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Born: 2 Jul 1898
Died: May 1987
(death date 26 May 1987 per her obituary)
State (Year) SSN issued: Wisconsin (Before 1951)
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Social Security Application SS-5

Her SS# is available here if you don’t already have it:
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/ ... _form=true

About the SS Application:
http://genealogy.about.com/od/online_re ... equest.htm
The SS-5, or Application for Social Security Number is a great resource for learning more about individuals who died after about 1960, and generally includes the following:
- Full name
- Full name at birth, including maiden name
- Present mailing address
- Age at last birthday
- Date of birth
- Place of birth
- Father's full name
- Mother's full name, including maiden name

- Sex
- Race as indicated by the applicant
- Whether the applicant ever applied for Social Security or Railroad Retirement before
- Current employer's name and address
- Date signed
- Applicant's signature
Order form SSA-711 (can be done online):
http://www.ssa.gov/foia/html/foia_guide.htm

Please Note:
... under our current policy, we do not release the parents’ names on an SS-5 application unless the parents' are proven deceased, have a birth date more than 120 years ago, or the number holder on the SS-5 is at least 100 years of age.
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No I have not. Until recently, I was unaware that they had any due to their not being in the SSDI. Just the other day someone told me that the SSDI doesn't contain many pre-1960 Deaths. I intend to order my great-grandmother's (Roza Bergine/Berginc) and great-grandfather's (Frank Fon) soon.

Angeline is in my family tree, but as Angeline Bergine; my great-grandmother's sister. After his wife Roza died in 1940, my great-grandfather married her sister, the old dog. :lol:
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Great :D !

Also neat to have, in case you don't already have copies
(documents won't include parent's names)

Naturalization Documents

Index Card with information (place of birth is interesting!)
http://imageshack.us/a/img829/3205/usna ... ecordi.jpg

The $20 fee from the Milwaukee Historical Society is very reasonable!
http://www.milwaukeehistory.net/researc ... -requests/
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Wow!

Vj, I can't thank you enough for you help. I really appreciate it! :)
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