Manno and Nicolicchia

[rfornal]

I had such success with the last few lines that I decided to try another pair from Italy and see if you've got any other ideas for me.

I am looking for my wife's g.Grandparents:

Biagio Manno and Ninfa Nicolicchia

I found their US Immigration (Ellis Island) information

Biagio married, travelled w/ 1 child
From Palermo, arrived 1901 on Trojan Prince
Date of Arrival oct 24 1901

Ninfa married, travelled w/ 4 children
From Palermo, arrived 1902 on Spartan Prince
Date of Arrival Jul 22 1902

I have nothing on their parents or siblings. Any thoughts or assistance would be greatly appreciated.

[vj]

for reference, Bob's manifests from above. vj

SS Trojan Prince 24 Oct 1901 Palermo to NY, lines 23-4
- Biagio MANNO, 42 (1859), married, last residence Palermo
going to NY, joining cousin Biagio ?? on Carmine St
travelling with son, nephew, etc?
- Filippo MANNO, 9 (1892)
http://ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup_wei ... &line=0023

SS Spartan Prince 22 Jul 1902 Palermo to NY, lines 1-5
- Ninfa NICOLICCHIA, 33 (1868-9), married, last residence Palermo
going to NY, joining husband Bigio MANNO at 504 Clinton St, Hoboken, NY (probably Hoboken, Hudson County, NJ)
(children joining father)
- Giacomo MANNO, 8 (1893-4)
- Lucia MANNO, 4 (1897-1898)
- Giovanni MANNO, 2 (1899-1900)
- Felicia MANNO, 1 (1900)
http://ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup_wei ... &line=0001

[suanj]

by LDS microfilms of Palermo you can know all you need:
is a great source.. are the civil registries from 1820 until 1908
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library ... di+Palermo+++
regards, suanj

[nuccia]

Could this be the 1930 censu info?

1930 United States Federal Census Record
about Biagio Manno
Name: Biagio Manno
Home in 1930: Jersey City, Hudson, New Jersey
Age: 67
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
BirthPlace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouses's Name: Ninfa
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military Service:

Rent Home Value:

Age at First Marriage:

Parents' Birthplace:

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Household Members:
Name Age
Biagio Manno 67
Ninfa Manno 60
Alice Manno 26
Rose Manno 24
Joseph Manno 22
Frances Manno 20
Mary Manno 18

Baggio Manno 1930 Census

Nuccia

[rfornal]

Thanks for the reference information VJ and SUANJ ...

I believe that is him, though I need to check the reference closer (the year he is born seems to be off, but the spouse, children, and location are correct).

[vj]

Bob, 2nd trip for Ninfa & children? vj

SS Sicilian Prince 23 Sep 1905 Palermo to NY, lines 1-5
- Ninfa NICOLICCHIA, 33 (1872), married, last residence Palermo, joining husband Biagio MANNO at 520 Clinton St, NY
(children joining father)
- child Lucia MANNO, 7 (1898)
- child Felicia MANNO, 4 (1901)
- child Giovanni MANNO, 2 (1903)
- child Rosaria MANNO, 2 mos (1905)
http://ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup_wei ... &line=0001

[vj]

Bob, another manifest, possible relations? vj

SS Trojan Prince 14 Nov 1902 Palermo to NY, lines 21-24
last residence? Palermo crossed out, going to Hoboken, NJ
joining son Giuseppe TUCCIO at 504 Clinton St in Hoboken, NJ
(note: same address as Biagio MANNO on 1902 manifest for Ninfa NICOLICCHIA)
- Raimondo TUCCIO, 57 (1845)
- Palma NICOLICCHIA, 54 (1848)
- Paolo TUCCHIO, 13 (1889)
- Gaetano TUCCHIO, 8 (1904)
http://ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup_wei ... &line=0022

[rfornal]

VJ: Awesome stuff ... I do know that Ninfa is listed as born in 1869 which would make her too old on the 1905 Sicilian Prince, but the listing for Palma Nicolicchia is VERY interesting (right age for a mother or aunt) ...

[vj]

Bob,
I agree manifests are fascinating. Pretty quick way to find possible relations if they're going to the same place! Lot's of possibilities...
Having problems looking at Hoboken census for 1910. The pages are pretty hard to read. It would be nice to find some of these folks living near each other ...
Please let us know if you need anything tracked down (confirmed), esp on ancestry.com
Thanks again, Valarie

[nuccia]

Could this be the 1930 censu info?

1930 United States Federal Census Record
about Biagio Manno
Name: Biagio Manno
Home in 1930: Jersey City, Hudson, New Jersey
Age: 67
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
BirthPlace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouses's Name: Ninfa
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military Service:

Rent Home Value:

Age at First Marriage:

Parents' Birthplace:

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Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Biagio Manno 67
Ninfa Manno 60
Alice Manno 26
Rose Manno 24
Joseph Manno 22
Frances Manno 20
Mary Manno 18

Baggio Manno 1930 Census

Nuccia

Been checking in and out and notice you've made lots of progress on your search but you never mentioned if this is the correct family in the 1930 Census. If not, I can delete the info. If so, there is a 1920 Census for this family..

1920 United States Federal Census Record
about Biagio Manno
Name: Biagio Manno
Home in 1920: West Hoboken Ward 1, Hudson, New Jersey
Age: 60 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
BirthPlace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouses's Name: Niffai
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Year of immigration: 1902
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 558
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Biagio Manno 60
Niffai Manno 50
Alice Manno 18
John Manno 16
Rose Manno 14
Joseph Manno 12
Frances Manno 10
Mary Manno 8

Will link if you can confirm...

Nuccia

[rfornal]

The 1920 one is correct ... just got home from work and had time to check against my database ... need to get everything updated ... back in a bit.

[nuccia]

The 1920 one is correct ... just got home from work and had time to check against my database ... need to get everything updated ... back in a bit.

The 1930 census is also correct then becasue they're the same persons, same birth years...just living in a different part of NJ

[rfornal]

Yep ...

Sorry about the confusion; the age 60 to age 67 over 10 years got me ... that's what I get for trying to do this stuff just before eating lunch. I've got some terrific clues that one of Jennifer's relatives just sent us. I should be able to get to them sometime early tomorrow.

Good Night All!

[rfornal]

OK, got some interesting notes that I can't tie in quite yet, but it leads me to believe that some of the things found yesterday were on track ...

Ninfa and Biagio's Children:
James Frank Manno; note by name "Believed came to USA in 1902"
Philip Manno
Lucy Manno
Felicia (Alice) Manno
John Manno
Joseph Manno
Rose Manno
Frances Manno
Mary Manno

... on the same page to the right of Ninfa are 5 names (Mother, Father, Aunt, Uncle, Brother, Sister ... can't tell at the moment) ...

Lucia Nasta - Vincenzo Nasta
Giacomo Nicolicchia
Rosaria Ovinch
Paolo Nicolicchia

... I tried to keep them in the order listed on the page.

In the notes: Rosaria Ovinch "English name; believed to be a Lady-in-Waiting to the Queen of England."
Paolo "believed to be a manufacturer of furniture for ocean liners."

Thanks for everything ... ties in VERY WELL!

[rfornal]

Also, I'll be attempting to get a copy of the following, as well and may need some assistance in translation:

From: Vincent Tomaselli ...

"... notes, believed to be written by ... Biagio, that document the Manno fmaily travels to and from Palermo, and dates of sibling births, deaths, marriages, etc."

Supposedly, (my wife) Jennifer's aunt has a copy of these notes ... wouldn't that be incredible history to get a hold of!