torretta family
torretta family
I'm new to this form of getting information. need a lot of help. Looking for members of Torretta family. Josehp (Giuseppe), Charles, Louis, Enrico, Peter. They lived in Boston at one time. Possibly between 1885 to 1900.
Any help would be greatly appreciated
Any help would be greatly appreciated
Re: torretta family
We would all be happy to help!
need a little more info tho:
- relationship between the names you listed,
- approx birth dates & locations, siblings, spouses, etc
- records you already have?
- goal US and/or Italian records?
Thanks! vj
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possible 1900 US Census for
Joseph TORRETTA in Gloucester
click here 1900 census
Name: Joseph Torretta
Home in 1900: Gloucester Ward 7, Essex, Massachusetts
Age: 43 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
BirthPlace: Italy
Relationship to head-of-house: Head
Spouses's Name: Mary E
Immigration year: 1886
Name: Mary E Torretta
(note: may be 2nd wife)
Age: 42 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
BirthPlace: Canada English
Relationship to head-of-house: Wife
Spouses's Name: Joseph
Immigration year: 1879
Children:
- Charles Torretta 18, b in Italy
- Mary A Torretta 9, b in MA
- Marcellia Torretta, 8, b in MA
- Theresa L Torretta, 7, b in MA
- James Torretta, 4, b in MA
- Annie J Torretta, 1, b in MA
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possible 1910 US Census
1910 torretta census
or
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/2194 ... acksm9.jpg
Name: Joesph (Joseph) Toretta (TORRETTA)
Age in 1910: 52 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
BirthPlace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouses's Name: Mary E
Home in 1910: Gloucester Ward 7, Essex, Massachusetts
Year of Immigration: 1885
Name: Mary E Toretta
Age in 1910: 52 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
BirthPlace: Canada English
Year of Immigration: 1880
Children:
Charles Toretta abt 1882 Italy
Mary A Toretta abt 1891 Massachusetts
Marcella K Toretta abt 1892 Massachusetts
Therese L Toretta abt 1894 Massachusetts
James Toretta abt 1895 Massachusetts
Annie J Toretta abt 1900 Massachusetts
Sarah R Toretta abt 1901 Massachusetts
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possible 1920 US Census
1920 torretta census
Name: Joseph Torretta
Home in 1920: Gloucester Ward 7, Essex, Massachusetts
Age: 62 years Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
BirthPlace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouses's Name: Mary A
Year of immigration: 1883
Name: Mary A Torretta
Age: 62 years Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
BirthPlace: Canada
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Year of immigration: 1857
Name: Charles Torretta
Age: 37 years Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
BirthPlace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Stepson (son)
Name: Sadie C Torretta
Age: 19 years Estimated Birth Year: abt 1901
BirthPlace: Massachusetts
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Name: Mary A Nason (probably Mason)
Age: 29 years Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891
BirthPlace: Massachusetts
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Name: Earl S Nason
Age: 6 years Estimated Birth Year: abt 1914
BirthPlace: Connecticut
Relation to Head of House: Grandchild
Name: Mary A Nason
Age: 4 years 4 months Estimated Birth Year: abt 1915
BirthPlace: Massachusetts
Relation to Head of House: Grandchild
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possible 1930 US Census
1930 torretta census
Name: Joseph Toretta (Torretta)
Home in 1930: Gloucester, Essex, Massachusetts
Age: 72 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
BirthPlace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouses's Name: Mary E
Name: Mary E Toretta
Age: 72 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Name: Charles Toretta
Age: 48 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Relation to Head of House: Son
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1942 Gloucester Directory
Torretta Mary E wid Jos h 8 High
1942 directory
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related record for son Charles
possible 1918 WWI Draft Card
ww1 draft card chas torretta
Charles TORRETTA, 35
963 Washington, Gloucester, Essex, MA
b 19 Nov 1883 in Italy
declarant
laborer
father Joseph Torretta at same address
need a little more info tho:
- relationship between the names you listed,
- approx birth dates & locations, siblings, spouses, etc
- records you already have?
- goal US and/or Italian records?
Thanks! vj
------------------------------------------------
possible 1900 US Census for
Joseph TORRETTA in Gloucester
click here 1900 census
Name: Joseph Torretta
Home in 1900: Gloucester Ward 7, Essex, Massachusetts
Age: 43 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
BirthPlace: Italy
Relationship to head-of-house: Head
Spouses's Name: Mary E
Immigration year: 1886
Name: Mary E Torretta
(note: may be 2nd wife)
Age: 42 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
BirthPlace: Canada English
Relationship to head-of-house: Wife
Spouses's Name: Joseph
Immigration year: 1879
Children:
- Charles Torretta 18, b in Italy
- Mary A Torretta 9, b in MA
- Marcellia Torretta, 8, b in MA
- Theresa L Torretta, 7, b in MA
- James Torretta, 4, b in MA
- Annie J Torretta, 1, b in MA
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possible 1910 US Census
1910 torretta census
or
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/2194 ... acksm9.jpg
Name: Joesph (Joseph) Toretta (TORRETTA)
Age in 1910: 52 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
BirthPlace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouses's Name: Mary E
Home in 1910: Gloucester Ward 7, Essex, Massachusetts
Year of Immigration: 1885
Name: Mary E Toretta
Age in 1910: 52 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
BirthPlace: Canada English
Year of Immigration: 1880
Children:
Charles Toretta abt 1882 Italy
Mary A Toretta abt 1891 Massachusetts
Marcella K Toretta abt 1892 Massachusetts
Therese L Toretta abt 1894 Massachusetts
James Toretta abt 1895 Massachusetts
Annie J Toretta abt 1900 Massachusetts
Sarah R Toretta abt 1901 Massachusetts
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possible 1920 US Census
1920 torretta census
Name: Joseph Torretta
Home in 1920: Gloucester Ward 7, Essex, Massachusetts
Age: 62 years Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
BirthPlace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouses's Name: Mary A
Year of immigration: 1883
Name: Mary A Torretta
Age: 62 years Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
BirthPlace: Canada
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Year of immigration: 1857
Name: Charles Torretta
Age: 37 years Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
BirthPlace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Stepson (son)
Name: Sadie C Torretta
Age: 19 years Estimated Birth Year: abt 1901
BirthPlace: Massachusetts
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Name: Mary A Nason (probably Mason)
Age: 29 years Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891
BirthPlace: Massachusetts
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Name: Earl S Nason
Age: 6 years Estimated Birth Year: abt 1914
BirthPlace: Connecticut
Relation to Head of House: Grandchild
Name: Mary A Nason
Age: 4 years 4 months Estimated Birth Year: abt 1915
BirthPlace: Massachusetts
Relation to Head of House: Grandchild
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possible 1930 US Census
1930 torretta census
Name: Joseph Toretta (Torretta)
Home in 1930: Gloucester, Essex, Massachusetts
Age: 72 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
BirthPlace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouses's Name: Mary E
Name: Mary E Toretta
Age: 72 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Name: Charles Toretta
Age: 48 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Relation to Head of House: Son
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1942 Gloucester Directory
Torretta Mary E wid Jos h 8 High
1942 directory
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related record for son Charles
possible 1918 WWI Draft Card
ww1 draft card chas torretta
Charles TORRETTA, 35
963 Washington, Gloucester, Essex, MA
b 19 Nov 1883 in Italy
declarant
laborer
father Joseph Torretta at same address
Re: torretta family
possible manifest info from Dr Steve Morse' Castle Garden site at
http://stevemorse.org/ellis/cg.html
Mr-joseph Toretta
Occupation Farmer Age 27 (abt 1857)
Sex M
Literacy U
Arrived 22 Apr 1884
Origin Italy
Port Havre
Last Residence U
Destination New York
Plan Unknown
Ship Saint Laurent
Passage Unknown
http://stevemorse.org/ellis/cg.html
Mr-joseph Toretta
Occupation Farmer Age 27 (abt 1857)
Sex M
Literacy U
Arrived 22 Apr 1884
Origin Italy
Port Havre
Last Residence U
Destination New York
Plan Unknown
Ship Saint Laurent
Passage Unknown
Re: torretta family
It would be a shame if this wasn't the correct family.
Found: Marriage Record from NEHGS (subscription site, no link)
27 Aug 1889 in Rockport, both from Gloucester
Guiseppe Toretta, 32 (1857), Quarryman, born in Italy
father Giovanni Toretta, mother Teresa Rivolta
second marriage
Mary Campbell, 26 (1863), Domestic, born in Cape Breton
father Angus Campbell, mother Annie
first marriage
Found: Marriage Record from NEHGS (subscription site, no link)
27 Aug 1889 in Rockport, both from Gloucester
Guiseppe Toretta, 32 (1857), Quarryman, born in Italy
father Giovanni Toretta, mother Teresa Rivolta
second marriage
Mary Campbell, 26 (1863), Domestic, born in Cape Breton
father Angus Campbell, mother Annie
first marriage
Re: torretta family
VJ ... like the way you broke down what we're looking for ...
... nice and cleanNeed a little more info though:
- relationship between the names you listed,
- approx birth dates & locations, siblings, spouses, etc.
- records you already have?
- goal US and/or Italian records?
Bob Fornal
http://www.podcastgenealogy.com
http://www.podcastgenealogy.com
Re: torretta family
Thank you Bob.
I remember my first post.
Was more worried about the proper etiquette for
posting than about including everything I needed to!
Now, we all do whatever we can do to help the poster along.
It may take a few posts to find the 'key' to the records,
but it's worth it if we can help find someone's family or assist
in their research.
Valarie
I remember my first post.
Was more worried about the proper etiquette for
posting than about including everything I needed to!
Now, we all do whatever we can do to help the poster along.
It may take a few posts to find the 'key' to the records,
but it's worth it if we can help find someone's family or assist
in their research.
Valarie
Re: torretta family
To vj and rfornal,
Thanks so much for the information you sent. I can hardly believe it!!Will get back to you when I have digested the info and can answer your questions.
To say i am thrilled is an understatement.
Thanks ever so much.
babydoll
Thanks so much for the information you sent. I can hardly believe it!!Will get back to you when I have digested the info and can answer your questions.
To say i am thrilled is an understatement.
Thanks ever so much.
babydoll
Re: torretta family
"Just the Facts, Ma'Am" .... our "Sgt. Friday" of this forum...rfornal wrote:VJ ... like the way you broke down what we're looking for ...
... nice and cleanNeed a little more info though:
- relationship between the names you listed,
- approx birth dates & locations, siblings, spouses, etc.
- records you already have?
- goal US and/or Italian records?
vj, I can honestly say, I respect your research methods... not to mention your contributions...
Maria
Re: torretta family
babydoll,
It would be terrific if some of these records belong to your family!
You're right, it's a lot to absorb.
Please let us know if any of the links don't work, or if the documents
are difficult to read. We can see if we can fix them (can use a different
'host' to link the images)
Take your time and get back to the team here whenever you're ready to
press on.
and Maria, very high praise, I'm humbled. Thank you.
Valarie
It would be terrific if some of these records belong to your family!
You're right, it's a lot to absorb.
Please let us know if any of the links don't work, or if the documents
are difficult to read. We can see if we can fix them (can use a different
'host' to link the images)
Take your time and get back to the team here whenever you're ready to
press on.
and Maria, very high praise, I'm humbled. Thank you.
Valarie
Re: torretta family
Link to Toretta manifest see line 198vj wrote:possible manifest info from Dr Steve Morse' Castle Garden site at
http://stevemorse.org/ellis/cg.html
Mr-joseph Toretta
Occupation Farmer Age 27 (abt 1857)
Sex M
Literacy U
Arrived 22 Apr 1884
Origin Italy
Port Havre
Last Residence U
Destination New York
Plan Unknown
Ship Saint Laurent
Passage Unknown
Here is the possible manifest of Joseph that vj located.
Maria
Re: torretta family
Maria,
You are a wonder!
Couldn't find that manifest anywhere.
Kinda surprising that his name was 'Joseph' and not Giuseppe.
Perhaps the person filling out the information translated the name?
(noticed this lately on WW1 cards - filled out w/'americanized' name,
signed with 'original' name)
Valarie
You are a wonder!
Couldn't find that manifest anywhere.
Kinda surprising that his name was 'Joseph' and not Giuseppe.
Perhaps the person filling out the information translated the name?
(noticed this lately on WW1 cards - filled out w/'americanized' name,
signed with 'original' name)
Valarie
Re: torretta family
Well... after 3 tries with Ancestry... I thought it would be best to search for the actual ship... (since you provided the info)...
Found the exact ship/date.... only 5 sheets to search... couldn't find his name after 2x... so I looked for his age instead... and poof... found him in seconds...
I have NO IDEA what Ancestry has him listed as...
I've seen this before too - where record keepers Americanized given names... and it threw me off...
Maria
Found the exact ship/date.... only 5 sheets to search... couldn't find his name after 2x... so I looked for his age instead... and poof... found him in seconds...
I have NO IDEA what Ancestry has him listed as...
I've seen this before too - where record keepers Americanized given names... and it threw me off...
Maria
Re: torretta family
Maria,
Got it, old fashioned leg-work.
Like the days before ancestry (not so long ago)
Page by page by page by page.
Perhaps this wasn't his first trip and he had already americanized his name
himself?
Thanks! Valarie
Got it, old fashioned leg-work.
Like the days before ancestry (not so long ago)
Page by page by page by page.
Perhaps this wasn't his first trip and he had already americanized his name
himself?
Thanks! Valarie
Re: torretta family
To All,
The information for as far as the people listed is concerned is correct. It is my grandparents and their children. The marriage record is correct also except for my grandmother's age. I think she was trying to impress Joseph. Her birth year is 1857. Charles is Joseph's son by his first wife.I can't tell if Dr. Steve Morse's site is correct or not. I do know that Joseph lived in France at one time and could speak French. The immigration years listed in the census go from 1883 to 1885. Joseph was born and believed married in Milan or Bellano, Italy. Louis (Luis) and Enrico are Joseph's brothers. Peter may be a brother or cousin. Charles wa born 23 Nov. 1882 in Milan or Bellano. Had a younger sister name unknown.
The information for as far as the people listed is concerned is correct. It is my grandparents and their children. The marriage record is correct also except for my grandmother's age. I think she was trying to impress Joseph. Her birth year is 1857. Charles is Joseph's son by his first wife.I can't tell if Dr. Steve Morse's site is correct or not. I do know that Joseph lived in France at one time and could speak French. The immigration years listed in the census go from 1883 to 1885. Joseph was born and believed married in Milan or Bellano, Italy. Louis (Luis) and Enrico are Joseph's brothers. Peter may be a brother or cousin. Charles wa born 23 Nov. 1882 in Milan or Bellano. Had a younger sister name unknown.