I do have that one noted, also two that were 1815-1884 and 1815-1887 and also 1819-to undetermined (but before 1905).

There just doesn’t seem to be a way to know for certain who is who. I mean it’s also possible she moved to Barcellona, as some of the family did. (Although I found no record ...

The problem is there are several Concetta Torres… or at least a couple, I do suspect several of them are one person but I don’t seem to have any way of verifying. Plus a couple that did marry.

Concetta Torre & padre ignoti

Year | child | mother’s age

1833 Pietro (15)
1836 Maria (24)
1834 ...

(I already have the birth act for Marianna Torre, which is here again, I was just hoping for… something else)

Does this include any information that would help me identify Marianna Torre’s other relatives?

Her mother is Concetta Torre, padre ignoti, but there are of course a couple different Concetta Torres in the same rough timeframe, so… hard to say which Concetta Torre I should be following.

https ...

Ahhh ha ha

Thank you!!!

If it’s a location, rather than a type of index, maybe that will point me toward Tama origins…

Hey I found my great grandfather’s half brother’s birth listed on the 10-year index… Oct 1 rather than Sep 29, pretty close.

Ferdinando Tama
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GTF7-9SVH?view=explore&groupId=TH-1951-23855-3874-46&lang=en

Does that say… Scalo? That’s not a Parte I or ...

Ah well… better that he not want to be named (jerk) than that the encounter was non-consensual.

Right, I was correcting that I had written filacatrice for fat-fingered, uncaffeinated reasons. On my iPad I can’t seem to edit posts like I can on my laptop. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ oh well

*faticatrice

Sorry, does that say Fortunato or Fortunata? As a filacatrice it’s probably -a (I am looking for the -o)

Does that say from a non-consensual union?

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... =en&i=2894

Messina is exactly where she’d be, thanks. Now I found her marriage, which I couldn’t before because her husband’s name was completely misidentified.

It looks like Cioppino to me, which seems highly unlikely, but now I can’t see it as anything else.

https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 03/wQrAyWJ

She wasn’t even there? Mmm off to a great start lol

I’ve seen a couple records with long paragraphs before stating the name of the bride… who is this Stellario Pisano guy, did he arrange for her to be married or something?

https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 83/LyXl8nD

I’ve run across a fair amount of English, Norwegian, etc surnames in Messina records. It’s a port town. There’s even a British cemetery. They fall in love, put down roots. I’m not surprised by Macdonald. But I have no idea if his wife Giuseppa Tamà is related to my Tamas or not. The Macdonalds in ...