Help with Latin marriage record!

[ginaruiz1998]

Erudita I think I found Rocco Salerno's marriage document! It helps that there was a very nice Priest (I am assuming) that re-wrote AND indexed these years! This document (although the original isn't available) states the marriage took place in 1681! WOW!

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... :417894634

[ginaruiz1998]

Sorry...it's the bottom Right side...#38 I believe!

[ginaruiz1998]

Then there's this one from 1649! It's a marriage document for Philippi Salerno and Angela Damianus/Damiano. Not sure if this would be the one! Can you help me with the names of the parents? That is confusing to me! It's #35...and on the left side!

Grazie,
Gina

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... :417894634

[erudita74]

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... :417894634

Look at this marriage record when you get a chance, Gina. This for a Rocco Salerno and a Maria Macaluso. I don't know if these are the same people as the parents in the grandfather Andrea's marriage to Antonina Collura. In this record, Rocco was the son of Filippo (living) and deceased Angela Salerno (again no maiden name for Angela). The bride was the daughter of Giuseppe and Angela Macaluso (both living). No maiden name for this Angela either. Date of marriage was Sept 15, 1681.

I don't know if you have any siblings at a more recent generation level to determine if these first names fit with your ancestry. I would really like to see some other record confirm it as a definite connection.

Erudita

[ginaruiz1998]

AAHHH!! Darn it! Just when I think I had it! Ok...I am going to take a little break and clear my head and come back to this in a bit!

Thanks for your hard work, Erudita!

Gina

[erudita74]

AAHHH!! Darn it! Just when I think I had it! Ok...I am going to take a little break and clear my head and come back to this in a bit!

Thanks for your hard work, Erudita!

Gina

Gina
Wait a minute. We found the same Rocco Salerno marriage, so it could be the right one. I don't think you need to take a break. I think you're doing really well. I can't believe how nicely the 1681 index is written. Wish all indices and records were written that way. I didn't look at the other record you found yet though.

Erudita

[erudita74]

Then there's this one from 1649! It's a marriage document for Philippi Salerno and Angela Damianus/Damiano. Not sure if this would be the one! Can you help me with the names of the parents? That is confusing to me! It's #35...and on the left side!

Grazie,
Gina

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... :417894634

I think the priest in this record made a big mistake concerning the bride's parents' names. The record is dated Oct 17, 1649. The groom, Filippo Salerno, was the son of deceased Rocco and Vincenza Salerno. Then the priest mistakenly wrote the name Vincenzo Damiano where Angela's name should have been written in the record, and then wrote then repeated the names of Filippo's parents. So I think the bride's father is Vincenzo Damiano, but we don't know her mother's name from this record.

I definitely think this record ties in with the marriage record for Rocco Salerno from 1681.

Erudita

Edit: I just realized that we had a different first name for Rocco's mother from his marriage record, but considering that this priest messed up Filippo's marriage record, I wouldn't rule out this marriage record for Filippo, at least not yet.

[ginaruiz1998]

LOL! I can't believe we posted the same one! I wish the same priest indexed ALL those records! I have a hard time with the Battesimo's!

[ginaruiz1998]

I thought there was a mistake in the Bride's parent's names too! But....If the record I found for Philippi's (Filippo) Baptism is the right one...then I am OK with getting one ancestral line to 1623! That's about 120 years further back than my Novara di Sicilia line and I was happy with that!

[erudita74]

LOL! I can't believe we posted the same one! I wish the same priest indexed ALL those records! I have a hard time with the Battesimo's!

By the way, I edited my previous reply, which I don't know if you saw.

[ginaruiz1998]

OK! So my next step is to locate Rocco's Baptism record...Filippo (Philippi) Salerno should be the father...and I should start around the year 1650? Is that what you would do?

[erudita74]

OK! So my next step is to locate Rocco's Baptism record...Filippo (Philippi) Salerno should be the father...and I should start around the year 1650? Is that what you would do?

Gina

Yes, the baptism record for the Rocco who married in 1681. I would start with 1650.

I'm going offline for a while, but will check on you later. Want to finish an interesting book I am reading about child abuse in Italy in the late 1700s.

Erudita

[ginaruiz1998]

I found Rocco's Baptism record!

It' #118 on the left side!

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... 1479022406

[erudita74]

I found Rocco's Baptism record!

It' #118 on the left side!

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... 1479022406

Gina
Didn't see this earlier.

Baptism of Simone Rocco Salerno on Oct 28, 1652, son of Filippo and Angela Salerno. Godparents were a priest and a nun-Father Don (title) Domenico Ferraro and Sorella (Sister) Caterina, natural daughter of Sigismondo D'Amato.

Erudita

[ginaruiz1998]

OK..so I confirmed Rocco's parents were Filippo and Angela. Should I assume that the priest did make a mistake in referencing the bride in Filippo's marriage document from 1649? I think he wrote "Vincentia." Also...while looking at the Baptism index...I noticed several other Filippo Salerno's had children with about THREE other women...all within this same time period. I am hoping that this is perhaps a cousin to Filippo (or another relation) and not the same one having children with all these women! Although I know enough I guess not to rule anything out at this point!