Dual citizenship-proof of reaquisition of Italian citizenship

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jennabet wrote: 22 Oct 2017, 19:39 Yes, I know where Puglia is and Perugia and have been to each place more than once. The Cable Act does not apply to most Italian immigrants who entered the USA during the mass migration. You are the only person who repeats it over and over again ad nauseum because it happened to affect your grand-mother who was not Italian. Not only do you provide without, hesitation, information in these forums suggesting people should be deceitful in getting what you think they're entitled to in Italy but you have a nauseating habit of always making sure you get the last word, no matter how incorrect it may be. Find somebody else to fight with, you pompous, miserable, old hag.
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Ok, now that this nonsense has ended, we need to discuss NextMove's next move.

NextMove, if the comune does indeed add the addendum to your mom's birth certificate, you should have no difficulty in obtaining citizenship recognition since that's exactly what they requested.

If, however, they do not respond favorably, you really should go the lawsuit route despite the additional cost. Actually, you do need to make an unsuccessful attempt outside the court system before an attorney will even consider taking your case.

It's important to remember, at this point, that even if your mother believed she lost her Italian citizenship and needed to reacquire it (as pointed out by Carubia), recent court rulings support the position that her citizenship was never lost. This is important because the reacquisition of citizenship affects only the petitioner and her minor children, so dates become critical. If citizenship was never lost, dates are no longer at issue.
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mler wrote: 18 Oct 2017, 22:21 Do include the questura if it confirms her citizenship.

My suggestion is that you state that you are writing on behalf of your mother, who is an Italian citizen. State that you are enclosing a copy of her passport as well as additional documentation to support her citizenship status and that she has asked you to obtain a formal acknowledgement of her citizenship in the form of an addendum to her birth record.

It may also be advisable to request that a copy of her amended birth certificate be sent to your mother in care of your address, and enclose a stamped, self-addressed envelope. Give them a contact number/email address to let you know if there is a fee for this service or if they require additional documentation.

I don't know if this would work, but it's the approach I would take.

My one concern is that they may be unwilling to release a birth certificate to the child of a living person. However, since you were able to get her unamended bc, this may not be an issue.
Making sure this "advice" stays available even though the applicant is fresh from an Italian Consulate in London which has stated the person in question lost Italian citizenship.
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NextMove wrote: "When I visited the Consulate in London, they sent me away to find proof."

I guess you missed that. That's the proof he/she is trying to get as advised by the comune in Puglia (I'm thinking Lecce). I should add, though, that even if the consulate had not directed him to further research, there is nothing wrong with pursuing a legitimate claim. The fact that so many lawsuits have overturned decisions made by the consulates means that applicants need to be proactive.

As far as my advice is concerned, there is no need to worry that I might delete it. That's the approach I suggested then and continue to suggest. You simply send them your proof of citizenship and request that a formal acknowledgement of that citizenship be made in the form of an addendum to the birth certificate.

And since you are so worried about deception,

NextMove also stated: "And just to make it crystal clear that I haven't lied anywhere along this procedure, when I wrote to the comune yesterday, that because my mother had dementia I was doing this for her as much as for me - to set the record right for her, me and the rest of my family."

Hope it all works out for you, NextMove.
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