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Hello, Cristiana, thanks for responding. If I'm ever able to get a stato for Domenico Summa, I think that might give us a few more clues. Let me know if you find anything else out.

Does the address #6 Marchetti Street mean anything to you?

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Hi, i think you know about a Domenico Summa who died 3 jan 1866. His second wife was Ippolita Samela and was son of Vito Summa and Anna Rosa. He lived in Castello.
My oldest ancestor was Giuseppe Summa and he had his son, Vito Summa (1807) in Candela (FG).
The adress doesn't mean anything to me.
I'll refer my news! :)

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Faber est suae quisque fortunae
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Hello, Cristiana, I can see from the tutto board that you are making progress! Still no link on my end though, who knows how far up I would have to trace the chain to find the connection.

As I said, we're looking at the male end of things but the connection may actually be somewhere through marriage - two cousins or sisters or whatever.

What is the story of Francescantonio ?

Here's the translation of Cristiana's news
I'm waiting for the document that confirms my hypothesis that my uncle was the direct ascendant Ninco Nance.

The news, at least for me, is that Ninco Nanco was married (as opposed to what you find online seems not) and that from what riferitomi from tree, it seems that even had children.

The family of the Summa which appateneva was the one who lived in the area of Avigliano said "the hill".
His father was married twice and had a total of 8 children.
For me it was quite a surprise to discover that Ninco Nanco was married!

The brothers and sisters were:
No Crescenzia 16/04/1825
Giuseppe Nicola No 05/04/1828 (surely died infant)
Maria Giovanna No 30/09/1830 (surely died infant)
Vitantonio No 14/11/1835
Maria Giovanna No 28/01/1837
No Francescantonio 12/08/1840
Maria Filomena No 28/07/1844

Francescantonio was the other robber.
Philip Summa of that I also found traces Candela doing research on the site of the Mormons and I believe could be the same.

Here are the news!
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Cristiana, please check your inbox
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I decided to map out what I know and see what shakes out through Ancestry. There were three male sons, Giuseppe Nicola (Ninco Nanco), Francescantonio, and Vitantonio. Both Giuseppe Nicola and Francescantonio were killed so the only chance of a male Summa offspring from this immediate line would be through Vitantonio.

A paternal uncle was mentioned, Francescantonio, who also became a brigand and fled Avigliano.
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Does anyone have something new to share on this? I haven't been able to get a Stato from Avigliano for my Summa ancestors despite several attempts so I am at a standstill. Thanks
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Death Act for Ninco Nanco, #103 of 1864. Is there anything telling in the notes? Occupation is still listed as a farmer.

http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... ewsIndex=0
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This is the death record of Giuseppe Nicola Sumona 31 years old son of deceased Domenico and deceased Anna
Coviello

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adelfio wrote: 11 Sep 2018, 18:07 This is the death record of Giuseppe Nicola Sumona 31 years old son of deceased Domenico and deceased Anna
Coviello - and husband of Catterina Ferrara

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I believe I have found the death act for Ninco's father, however the index shows what I think is a duplicate number - 226, and 226^2 (or 296). Looking up death act 226 I do not see a match, however on the top of act 224 there is a notation. 296 doesn't look like a match either. I am posting the act with the notation for Domenico Summa, and the index page.

Note looks like it says 30 May 1949, Domenico Summa, parents Giuseppe Nicola and Mariantonia Santarsiero, wife Anna Coviello? Is that all there is?

http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... ewsIndex=0

http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... 5.jpg.html
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Death Record No 10 Diversi: Domenico Summa
Died in Rionero

Domenico Summa, 50 yo, born in Avigliano, profession Corriere (Messenger/Town Crier/Courier), lived in Avigliano, son of the deceased Giuseppe Nicola Summa and the deceased Mariantonia Santarsiero – Widow of Anna Coviello
http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... ewsIndex=0

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Here is Domenico Summa's 1849 death record as recorded in Rionero, the town where he died. He died on 29 May 1849.

http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... ewsIndex=0

This is a very straight forward Death Record. When I was looking at the Death Extract from the diversi that I have posted here, I was wondering whether there may have been more to it, but I can't quite make out all the words. Maybe someone else will take a look to see whether there is anything significant to mention that I'm not seeing.

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I looked this is a straight death record with witnesses and what Angela written


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