Need a little help

[Paison_73]

Grandfather was
born:
15Dec1921

Died:
31Jul1985

Married:
01Feb1949

it says something about Poland, Ohio, but i don't know if that is where he was born or married.

i have yet to find any info that tells me his fathers name or anything of that sort

[wldspirit]

Name: EDWARD NOCE
Birthdate: 15 Dec 1921
Deathdate:Jul 1985
Place: 98031 (Kent, King, WA) 98390 (Sumner, Pierce, WA)
SS#285-16-8808
SS# Issued in Ohio

Using the above info from SSDI you can obtain the social security application which may provide you with additional clues.
Copy of request at following link:
http://ssdi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.c ... amesiffix=
wldspirit

[suanj]

Hi, this marriage act:
http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/9307 ... age7ze.jpg
suanj

[Paison_73]

that gives me a light of hope...thankyou suanj

[mfjp]

Just to review...

(unconfirmed) Great great grandfather Eduardo Noce born 1863 in Roscigno(?) - have manifest of May 3, 1898 age 35 married, off to New York

Great grandfather info - nil

Grandfather - Edward Noce, Birth- 15 Dec 1921 Deathdate: Jul 1985
Place: 98031 (Kent, King, WA) 98390 (Sumner, Pierce, WA)

mfjp

[Paison_73]

yes....but im still not positive that Eduardo is actually a relation.

i ordered the death certificate from my grandfather

[VaDeb]

But you are now on the right track. You have an actual place and date of death for your grandfather. Suanj provided an actual image of a marriage record. So you also have the name of his wife and where the marriage occured. NOw you are working from concrete, known data.

Get a notebook or use a spreadsheet to create a timeline. Note date, event, source and age. Use a map and note the county name that each city is located in.

Ohio is a very friendly state for records. They also have alot on-line at ancestry.com Write or e-mail a library in the city your grandfather died in. Ask if they will look up the obit and send it to you. Some charge a few dollars for this service. Or check the local historical/genealogy society where the death occured. Often they will have a look up service and you can get the obit for about $5. If you belong to a local library, your library maybe able to get the obit for you through their inter library loan. The idea is to continue working from the death and marriage record.

[Paison_73]

yeah im hoping when i get the death certificate it will have his parents names on it, then i will proceed to do research on them

[Paison_73]

bump for good measure

[Paison_73]

a little update....

i haven't found out anything i haven't already either got from the great people here or what i did before i got to this site....

im at a loss at how hard this is.
i sent the info i needed to get the death certificate of my grandfather, but low and behold it did not have his parents names.
i dont know what else i can do to get his parents names, as my father has not responded to any of my e-mails. for some unknown reason he is being an ass

[ricbru]

a little update....

i haven't found out anything i haven't already either got from the great people here or what i did before i got to this site....

im at a loss at how hard this is.
i sent the info i needed to get the death certificate of my grandfather, but low and behold it did not have his parents names.
i dont know what else i can do to get his parents names, as my father has not responded to any of my e-mails. for some unknown reason he is being an ass

Why don't you request the integral copy of birth act?
bye ricbru

[VaDeb]

You are one step closer, you have an actual death certificate. Have you tried to get an obituary? That will list alot of information. Perhaps give you an aunt or uncle to contact if your father does not want to help.

The death certificate should list the cemetery and funeral home. Contact the cemetery for burial records. Who else is buried near him or in the plot owned by him. Or who owned the plot he was buried in.

Don't get discouraged. This journey of tracing your ancestors can be slow, but very rewarding. Try and get every document possible.

[VaDeb]

I just re-read the posts for your topic. Another suggestion. You have your grandfather's social security number and informaiton. You can send away for his social security application. It will contain the names of his parents and his place of birth. This is a good source of information, because it was completed by him!!

Use this site to find his SS record again. Then click on the box to generate a request to send to SS to get a copy of his SS application. It is $27 but should provide you with alot of needed information.

http://ssdi.rootsweb.com/

Remember, as long as there are documents out there that you have not acquired you have not hit a brick wall. Just keep looking. If your grandfather had siblings, I highly recommend researching them also. Each of their birth and death records should have parents names also.

[Paison_73]

well my father finally answered my e-mail...too bad it took a very nasty e-mail for him to respond....

my great grandfather's name was Fred Noce, he died in Zanesville Ohio.

thats all the info i have other than the marriage certificate.

[VaDeb]

Well, again you have a name and possibly a death date??

Go to ancestry.com (it free at library and FHC) and look for Fred* Noce. There are hits in the death cert index. Also several for newspapers in Zanesville. I don't think the newspaper subscription is available at libraries.

Anyway, you need to send for this death certificate and find the obituary. Same procedure as before. You don't have alot of details and you need to start following the paper trail.