Looking for a place North/East Italy, maybe around...

[nuccia]

I'm terribly sorry about the triple and double post! if the mod could delete those would be cool, i'm reaaaaally lousy with computers, they seem to not like me!...
Suanj, about the Budapest thing i'm talking about some info a friend told me, that this guy traveled to Spain from Budapest, wht he was doing in Budapest? i don't know, maybe this part of the info is wrong...
Thankyou so much for the surnames help, i hope it'll help to track down more about this family... there were Petazzi in Lokev and a completely diferent Petazzi family in Trieste or were the same?, how do you know that the count Petazzi was definetly in Lokev in 1633?...

and fianlly... OMG! were did you found that about Juan Bautista Francisco Melchor de Mucha? i have no idea what it sais in german but it sais Corgnale! and Spanien and Mexiko! i have no idea who this guy is!, could he be Wolfgang's father? could you elaborate?...
Thank you sooo much!

I have deleted your duplicate posts as you requested.. nuccia

[mauricioom]

Suanj: You're the man!!...
OMG, now i know that the Petazzi family was related to the Keglevic family right at the end of its dinasty!; now i know why some of the Petazzi we've found are also called San Servolo, because they took the name of the castle right?!.. i see also that that part of the Petazzi family also were related to german houses!.. and i've just saw this: the Visini family were Count Palatine?, they sure are from Wolfgang's Visini, cause in that amazing webpage it sais that heir primary house was in Gorizia!, Visini is a rare surname? 'cause is really difficult to find!...
Montabello and Montebello is the same surname?...
You know, now that i know from were the Petazzi took "San Servolo" i was wondering, in Wolfgang's name at the end (were i think is the part of the titles) it sais "San Abas", do you think there's a posibbility that Wolfgang's family did the same and took part of their manor as their name?...
And last but not least i was wondering if there's a place like this to german-austrian genealogy or maybe i can get help on all the other german-sounding surnames right here? (do you happen to know anything about all the others?)...
Once again, i wanna tell you how grateful i am you're helping me!
Mauricio

[jcsm400]

Great site with many links to genealogy research in former Austrian Empire.

http://www.cyndislist.com/austria.htm

Hope it helps.

jcsm

[mauricioom]

Thnkz Jcsm! surfing throu' it right now..
Mauricio

[suanj]

-San Servolo is a isle in Venezia sea; San servolo is a isle of Venezia isles..
-Visini yes, palatinian counts; yes is a rare surname;
-Montabello don't exist: exist Montebello;
-for other questions I don't know;
I think that you now must to elaborate with precision all this infos, and after you can understand better and with rationality what is the further step in your search.
Happy of to help, regards, suanj

[mauricioom]

Hi thanks again for your input Suanj!
You know what i've jus realized that in Wolfgang's complete name you can read the word "Prelose", and i've heard that that used to be or still is a town in Slovenia! that could lead me in the right direction... and do you know if the surname Mucha and Muha is the same? 'cause guees what, someone told me that in Lokev there's an Inn owned by a Muha/Mucha family, who have onwed tha place since the 1600s! I guess i hit the jackpot!
Regards
Mauricio

[mauricioom]

Hi, look what i've found:

Suche Familie de MUCHA in Triest und Grafschaft Görz, Herkunft in Corgnale. Juan Bautista Francisco Melchior de Mucha ist in Corgnale um 1795 gestorben.
Er war Ehemann der Anna Maria Schiffer von Schifferstein. Der Sohn Wolfgang de Mucha war 05 09 1758 in Corgnale geboren und nach Spanien ausgewandert wo er am 01 12 1826 in "El Real Sitio de la Cavada, Santander" gestorben ist.
Die Nachkommen wohnten erst in Sevilla und seit 1910 in Mexiko. Der Bruder Anton und fünf Schwestern bleiben in Triest. Suche alle mögliche Ergängzungen.


From what i understand (not much) Wolfgang's parents are the guy we said last time Juan Bautista Francisco Melchior de Mucha and Anna Maria Schiffer von Schifferstein. other than Wolfgang's date of birth and death it sais that he had one brother named Anton and 5 sisters, all of them living in Trieste...

Do you know anything on this new info? what about the Schiffer von Schifferstein surname?.. thanks
Have a great day,
Mauricio