Alia, Palermo, Sicily Families

[mfjp]

Hi HarleyCat,

Your update was...

In 1910, Emmanuele, Antonino, Salvatrice, and Maria Grazia Morana are listed in Jersey City, Hudson County, New Jersey. Per the census, Emmanuele immigrated in 1906, Antonino in 1907, Salvatrice in 1907, and Maria G in 1907. I was able to find Salvatrice and Maria Grazia's arrive aboard The Virginia 4 June 1907 thru Ellis Island. According to the manifest, they were headed to Jersey City, to what appears to be 374 (or 314) First Street (1910 census appears to show them at 378 Third Street.) It also shows relatives as brothers Emmanuele and Salvatore. I have not found Salvatore as of yet at all. I can not find any of the boys' arrivals thru Ellis Island. I assume another port, but right now do not have access to additional databases.

I have been told Tony Morana went to Argentina (do not know when or why) but cannot find him for sure after 1910 anyway. I also lose Emmaneule after 1910.

Glad to read about your update, and glad you followed up at the forum.

Am locating these records for you... just having a heck of a time with the manifest database lately... but not worried, the server is just very busy!

First Name: Antonino

Last Name: Morano
Ethnicity: Italy Italian South
Last Place of Residence: Alia
Date of Arrival: May 13, 1903
Age at Arrival: 19y Gender: U Marital Status: U
Ship of Travel: Sardegna
Port of Departure: Napoli
Manifest Line Number: 0027

Hope to link these soon.

Maria

Finally get to view these!

The detained list...

See line 8. It mentions that he was with a party of 2. But now I am further confused as the "gender" is unkown

Info is also mentioned on the Passenger List Information above...

Info on this sheet mentions that Antonio would be joining husband Francesca Poleche... so you can see the confusion here...

Detained List

His Manifest...

Antonino's 1903 Manifest (didn't sail)

Looks like 4 people from Alia are listed... but unfortunately the info is incomplete.

Do any of the names on this record ring a bell?

Agostino Salerni(?) and others....

mfjp

[harleycat]

Hi HarleyCat,

Glad to read about your update, and glad you followed up at the forum.

Am locating these records for you... just having a heck of a time with the manifest database lately... but not worried, the server is just very busy!

First Name: Antonino

Last Name: Morano
Ethnicity: Italy Italian South
Last Place of Residence: Alia
Date of Arrival: May 13, 1903
Age at Arrival: 19y Gender: U Marital Status: U
Ship of Travel: Sardegna
Port of Departure: Napoli
Manifest Line Number: 0027

Hope to link these soon.

Maria

Finally get to view these!

The detained list...

See line 8. It mentions that he was with a party of 2. But now I am further confused as the "gender" is unkown

Info is also mentioned on the Passenger List Information above...

Info on this sheet mentions that Antonio would be joining husband Francesca Poleche... so you can see the confusion here...

Detained List

His Manifest...

Antonino's 1903 Manifest (didn't sail)

Looks like 4 people from Alia are listed... but unfortunately the info is incomplete.

Do any of the names on this record ring a bell?

Agostino Salerni(?) and others....

mfjp[/quote]

The only name of possible meaning is Salvatore Cortese. The Morana family is from my great-grandmother. Cortese would be from my great-grandfather (his mother). I am still trying to put together the Cortese family, so IF he is related to my Cortese, it would probably be like a cousin to my great-grandfather.

Intersting on Anton.... Morrano/Morana, whatever, is the one crossed off the same as the one on the detained? I am not sure how that works. Interesting location, though. I think it was the 1898 manifest including my great-granfather's sister, that had a Maria Concetta Bonfanti or Bonforti. She was metting up with her father Giovanni at 38 Mulberry Hill (and I thought it said NJ). I have found Mulberry Street in Manhatten. I am not sure about Mulberry Hill. Filomena Bonfanti is what I have as the Morana mama.

The search continues.....

[mfjp]

Intersting on Anton.... Morrano/Morana, whatever, is the one crossed off the same as the one on the detained? I am not sure how that works.

yes... I noticed that too... I do think it is the same person.

As soon as I see a line running through a name... OR... if a name has an "X" next to it... I look for the detained list...

If there is a line running through a name... (there's hope) that they may have boarded onto another boat... maybe the same day... sometimes a day or 2 later... or not at all...

The search continues!

mfjp

[virginiafucca]

hola, busco información acerca del apellido FUCCA, el único dato que tengo es que eran de SICILIA.
dejo mi correo para alguna informacion...
virginiafucca@yahoo.com.ar
gracias

[harleycat]

Great news! My cousin has gotten in contact with the Morana family in New Jersey. She was able to meet up with one of them this weekend. I have an e-mail out now with LOTS of questions! A few things we did learn is Uncle Tony was not the one that went to Argentina, he stayed in NJ or possibly NY. (She said there was so much to talk about she didn't catch everything). I am hoping to find out which of the brothers did. The youngest Rosalia stayed in Alia. It appears both the parents Giuseppe Morana and Filomena Bonfanti died while some of the children were still quite young. That is probably why Lena and Grace came over when they did. So, Emmanuele or Salvatore (or both or if there was another brother), did go to Argentina. I believe both brothers were in US at least for a time. I am hoping someone in the family will also know something about my grandmother's sister who was said to have died when she was about 2 while visiting the family (in NY or NJ).

On the Panepinto side, I may have found contacts for the Scaccias (Papa's sisters' children). I need to formulate a good letter to send. One actually lives not too far from me, but I am not sure calling him (he's 77) is the best choice. Many of the others still live in Louisiana. Names of interest: Romano, Giuffre, Montalvo, LaRocca, and Bonacorso.

I am also still trying to link Antonino Cortese, who was living in New Orleans turn of the century, to my family line. His daughter Maria and her husband Philip Centanni are listed on one of my great-aunt's baptismal record as the sponsor.

There were also some Bonfanti families in New Orleans. Not sure how or even if they connect to my line. Antonino and Laura Bonfanti came in 1907 from Alia to NO, but there is a Joseph and a Baldozzo listed on the 1910 census.

Oh, and I almost forgot, the Morana familiy was Jewish!?! I am not sure when they came to Italy or exactly why. Once in Italy, they switched from Moran to Morana. I am hoping to learn more about that also.

So, my Alia connections: Panepinto, Morana/Morano, Scaccia, Cortese, Bonfanti, Mortellaro, Gullo, Sedita.

Nicole

[JoannL]

Hey Harley Cat...my great grandmother was a Scaccia...her name was Rosalie or Rosalia.
She was married to Calogero Sangiorgio and married about Feb 6, 1879 in Alia Sicily.

There was also an Anna Scaccia , which was Rosalia's sister I think...but not more info on them at all.

I am trying to find out where they came in at...and where did they reside...I am having a hard time.

Did you find them on any Census? I can't find them at all.

Thanks,

Joann

[JoannL]

Also HarleyCat...I think this Anna Scaccia that I am talking about was married to a Bonfanti...and my grandfathers brother...Sam/Salvatore was adopted by them....I think that maybe Rosalia died and Salvatore went to live with her sister Anna.

I am not definately sure...but does this sound familiar to you?

I will have to call some long lost relatives to find this out again.

Thanks
Joann

[jcsm400]

Hi everyone,

For those of you who have the town of origin as ALIA, Italy/Sicily, the LDS Church has filmed the civil records (birth, marriage, & death acts) & the church records (sacraments).

Link to civil records (1821-1910).

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library ... ato+civile++

Link to church records. Only one film for baptisms 1823-1825.

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library ... rocchiali2++

Hope this helps someone.

jcsm

[JoannL]

Thankis JCSM....this is what I was actually looking for ...I am going to my library here in Louisiana to see if they have these.

Thanks for the numbers.

Searching Alia, Corleone,
Families: Sangiorgi, Milone, Scaccia, Tamburello???(not sure on the correct spelling)

thanks
Joann

[jcsm400]

You are very welcome, Joann.

If you need anything else, just let us know.....Will do the best we can to help in your research.

Joyce

[sazzlynn]

...I am going to my library here in Louisiana to see if they have these.
thanks
Joann

Hi Joann,
I work at the FHC in Denham Springs, La. and I have 13 rolls of Alia microfilm on permanent loan there. If you are anywhere close by, you could view them and save on the rental fees. It now costs $5.50/film for 1 month.
De

[JoannL]

Hi Sazzlynn,

Boy that should would be great if I lived by you...but I live in Lake Charles, Louisiana.
Do you know if the library here in Lake Charles would have them also?

And I am not familiar with the viewing....can I view them at the library...will I use there machine to view?....I am just not familiar with these film at all.

Thanks!!

Joann

[sazzlynn]

The microfilms are photographs of the old records. They are viewed at the library using the machines there. Most FHCs can copy pages once you find the records you want.
I would call the local FHC to find out their open hours. Print out the list of available Alia films from the above link and bring it with you. They will only have Alia films if someone has ordered them (like me). But they would be able to order the films for you. It takes about 2 weeks for the film to arrive and they will call and let you know it's there. Don't order too many at once because it does take time to read the film.
That said, the records will be written in Italian, so bring a word translation list. Most are common forms, so you will see the same words and phrases used often. Be patient as you learn to read the old hand handwriting. Good Luck!
(Our g-g-grandmother was Anna Scaccia who married Rosalino Marchiafava in Alia in 1881 before they immigrated to Louisiana in 1891)

[JoannL]

Sazzlynn,

I will definately check into it!! Thank you so very much.

How do you actually pronounce SCACCIA....and MARCHIAFAVA?

I am wondering if this is the same Anna that my grandfather's brother Salvatore went to live with ???....but I was thinking she married a Bonfonti? or Buffamonti?....I am not sure on that spelling.

I will definately have to check into it more.....I will try and get in touch with this OLD long lost relative that I spoke to about a year ago. Maybe I didnt understand her the first time I spoke with her.....its just hard over phone to get story straight. But I will definately check again.

Where in Louisiana did they come to in 1891? AND have you found them on the Census anywhere?....or have you found ANY Scaccia's on the census?
I cannot find any of my Ancestors before 1920....its almost like they disappeared before then...and I definately know they were in states around the 1910...some of the SanGiorgi's came in 1903 and earlier...to Louisiana...says Pattersonville....but cannot find them.
I am assuming that is where the Scaccia's were...since my great grandmother, Rosalie Scaccia was married to my to my great grandfather, Calogero Sangiorgi....but they may have married in ALIA also.

I am new at this (only about a year).

Thanks!!
Have a great day!!

Joann

[harleycat]

Joann,
The Scaccia family is my great-grandfather's sister's family. I don't have much on the ancestry there. If I am understanding correctly, your family came in 1891, right? You may want to check into the possibility they came in through Ellis Island. Big Mama (as my grandmother called her) and her family did. I assume they stopped there, registered thru Ellis Island, and then possibly continued onto Louisiana. They arrived in 1898 and were in Louisiana by the 1900 census. The manifest indicated they were continuing on to Louisiana.

If you can give me a few more details, I'll check ancestry.com. I just noted they did add the manifests for Louisiana! I just found Papa's manifest. Sometimes you have to play around with spelling to find people on census. Even the soundex doesn't work if either the census taker could not understand and spelled the name wrong and/or their handwriting made it difficult for the transcriber. It took me a long time to find Papa in 1910, but I finally did.

If you find out any more about Bonfanti family, please let me know.