Full translation of marriage of Dominico Mastracci and Maria Salome Ceci

[lyn1982]

Yes! Finally found what I need. Alright its worrying her surname is Ceci - one of her sons has her name as Maria S Pavia on his SS card App and my ggf has her name as Mary Paris. Edit: Is this Dominicos first marriage, or 2nd, cause the brothers are listed as half brothers on someones tree with the oldest being born 1880 having Maria pavia as mom, the other blank.

Can somebody please do a full translation for the marriage of Dominco Mastracci and Maria Salome Ceci? Due to the formatting I can't even make out parents names.


https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 42/wEAzGJK

[darkerhorse]

Bride's father looks like Innocenzo. Mother looks like Candida Pronzi or Franzi but someone else will have to read it.

I think the groom is age 31 and the bride is age 24.

He's "celibe" and she's "nubile", so it looks like the first marriage for both.

[darkerhorse]

The information on the bride starts with "2.. Maria Salome..." towards the bottom.

[lyn1982]

Thank you. If thats the first marriage I think I need to keep looking - there must be 2 Domenico Mastraccis in the area who married Maria S's. Sons SS app has his mother as Maria S Pavia. and he was born in 1880. Maybe first I'll check birth records to see whose listed on his birth. If they are online now.

[darkerhorse]

With second marriages a copy of the death record for the first (deceased) spouse should be in the marital allegati.

[lyn1982]

Daughter Filomenas death has her mothers name as Salome Pavia (I suspect her name was Maria Salome Pavia) https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 04/w1X2Rzr

So I guess this isn't right marriage afterall.

Unfortunately they may have married in Alatri, and the records there seem super scarce - looks like what they have has some water damage so I can guess what happened to the rest. ;(

Dominico died 1910 in Veroli according to peoples trees - though I suspect thats the Dominico in the marriage I linked - not the one I need and that people confused things. Something I saw before claimed a date in 1880s - which also doesn't make sense - given that a widowed woman would be less likely to take in a foundling.

Can you tell me, is Dominico alive in the death record for daughter?

I remember now and I documented in the tree there was another son who died in 1892 and I thought someone said Dominico was dead then. I need to find that record I didn't seem to save it.

Edit found it: https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 05/LP2q1eB I see "FU" so looks like Dominico is dead. So he died between 1889-1892 Of course none of the years in between are there. Sigh.

[darkerhorse]

There's a Peter M. who immigrated (with others) from Veroli in the early 1900s. I think they went to Brooklyn, NY.

[lyn1982]

I think I'll get nowhere researching Mastracci or Pavia cause either I have a break in my line and Josephs not my ggf or he knew his bio family and kept in touch because I was doing a bunch of digging and I see I got 2 DNA matches that are first cousins and they got in there tree someone from PE (where my mystery matches are from) who married someone from Cerda and they settled in Niagara Falls and appear to have lived in Rochester too, which is close to Lyons NY where Joseph lived, and Joseph settled in Niagara after living in Lyons for 2 years.

I just assumed they matched on my great grandmother, Josephs wives line cause shes from Cerda but I added them to thrulines and its showing the ancestors they match each other on are from the PE side. So there is something realllllly fishy going on here cause that's way too much to be a coincidence. The match is only 34cms though. The worrying thing though is my grandma was born in 1924 and this family lived on 20th street, my great grandparents on Grove ave.....its just a 30 min walk away.

So either I got a break or hes a foundling who definitely knew his bio family and maintained close ties.

[lyn1982]

I just did more digging and I may have bridged the gap between Rome and Porto Empedocle or this may all be a coincidence and not related at all - but I've been researching the surname from my matches tree the one with ties to Cerda, PE, and Rochester, and Niagara and I've only just started and I don't even know if the one Salvaggio is related to the other - but the Salvaggio in their line that I seem to DNA connect to is from Grotto, Agrigento and there's another Salvaggio who was living in Niagara who apparently was born in Ceccano, Frosinone which isn't too far from Alatri. Now I have to see if I can connect the ones from Agrigento to them. Feeling very excited now!

I got this for the Frosinone one:

Anthony Silvaggi
Birth 29 NOV 1896 • Ceccano, Frosinone, Lazio, Italy

Death 3 APR 1962 • New York, USA

parents
Antonio Louis Silvaggi
1867–
and
Maria Anna Moro


And my DNA matches to antonina Salvaggio b1848 who married Vincenzo Marino her parents were
Girolamo Salvaggio
1820–
Mariantona Marsala
1824–

She was born either Sicoliana or Grotto, Agrigento.


This all makes me even more curious if I'm on the right path - how on earth did my ggf come to know his bio family? Why was he not claimed and surname changed? So many questions!

[darkerhorse]

What surname did your ggf use for himself?

[lyn1982]

He used Abbo, before that Ebbo, which basically was just his foundling surname Eppes miswritten.

[lyn1982]

Right now I'm just trying to figure out if the Antonino Salvaggio in this manifest https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... 2D?lang=en is the same as the one whose son on his marriage license was born in Ceccano because that would prove my DNA matches have a connection to the Rome/alatri area. The marriage licence was transcibed as parents Antonino Salvaggi and Maria Moro. Ship manifest looks like Maria Angela Manasala. And then I gotta figure out how to connect both them to the Salvaggio DNA match ancestor that was living in Niagara Falls.

[darkerhorse]

Yes, the mother's name doesn't look like Moro.

The lines through the entries imply that they didn't make the trip. Maybe they came over later.

Salvatore Rizzo listed above Antonio was joining his brother-in-law Vincenzo Mancuso and Antonio was joining his brother-in-law Stefano Mancuso.

So a Rizzo and a Salvaggio, both from the same town in Italy, married Mancuso sisters and were scheduled to immigrate together.

I believe you mentioned Rizzo in another post.

[darkerhorse]

According to the ship manifest Antonio was born in Gratte. Do you mean the birth place of his son?

[lyn1982]

Yes, Rizzo is on the line of 95cm DNA match to my 2nd cousin on this line - I wasn't able to get their line back very far. But their Rizzos were from Termini Immerse. Its near Cerda so I'd think they'd relate on my great grandmothers line but it doesn't seem to connect with the matches to her line. Moreover theres a 98cm match to another Rizzo family in Ohio on 23andme but even though both Rizzos settled in Ohio I can't connect them.

I mean there's another Antonino Salvaggio also with a father Antonino Salvaggio. That Antonino Salvaggio (the son lists birth place of Ceccano. I don't know if the one in the passenger manifest is the same Antonino Salvaggio who fathered that one though.

Thank you for the additional info ! I have some things to do today but later I'm definitely gonna be looking up all I can on Salvatore Rizzo and Stefano Mancuso.

How unusual was it for an italian from this time period to be literate? My ggf's passenger manifest says he could read and write.