other entry points for italians in 1800's

[karen94]

I have been searching for some of my family that came to the USA from Italy between 1880 -1888. they of course did not come throught ellis island but i cannot find them in the castle garden database either. I have joined ancestry to access all there records with no results. Any suggestions would be most appreciated. Also did Italy keep track of citizens coming/going into the country between 1880 and 1900.
sincerely,
karen94

[DeborahLar]

Karen if you list your surnames and any other info you know such as estimated birth years or where they settled in the US we can try and help you.

Deborah Aceto Larsen

[karen94]

Thanks,
My great grandfather came into the usa in 1881 with the name Luigi Mucciardi, I belive he came with his sister her first name was Tommasina. She came to the USA the same year; we are not sure if she had her maiden name or was already married to Liverachie- last name unclear but any of these three spellings Bracco, Braco or Braca. They came from Campochairo, Italy for sure.

My great grandmother who died giving birth to my grandmother in 1889 was Florentina Feola or Feolo do not know her birth date. She had a brother whose name was Tony. We are not sure when she came to the US but believe it was between 1881 and 1888. We are not sure which town they were from in italy. We do not know if she came with Luigi or met him here. My grandmother was there first and only child. Any help would be great.
thanks,
karen

[AnotherCitizenToBe]

Karen - Italian women to this day do not take on the surname of their spouse. In fact, I understand that, should my dual citizenship be approved, my wife's eventual Italian passport will be issued in her maiden name.

At any rate, when searching ship's manifests and other immigration records, you need to search for maiden names, not married names.

[karen94]

I have checked both maiden and married names with no results. We are quite positive anyways when florentina came to the usa she was not married to luigi yet
Thanks,
karen

[Clicker]

Hi Karen

Are you positive that they came directly to the US? Is it possible that they came in from Canada and crossed the border into the US? Perhaps you can check the border crossing lists.....just a thought though, you may have already went this route.

[misbris]

Karen,

Back to your orginal question. Philly, Boston, and Baltimore were also ports of entry in the US. Ancestry should hve those records as well as border crossings that Clicker suggested. If you don't have access, I'm sure someone here can check for you.

Are you sure of the dates? There are records for a Luigi Mucciardi from Campochiaro, but the dates are much later.

Also first names are often changed. for example Florentina (which I don't think is a typical Italian name) could be Fiorentina, Flora, Filomina or Maria Florentina etc.

Have you found census records? Where did the family settle at first?

Hope this helps

Mary Jo

[misbris]

Sorry, didn't notice you had already checked Ancestry.

FHC has civil records for Campochiaro from 1809 to 1910. That might help.

[misbris]

Possible 1900 census

http://persi.heritagequestonline.com/hq ... 1&offset=0

[elena2001]

Karen,

Did you ever find Luigi and Tommasina Mucciardi? My family is from Campochiaro as well and I do have information on both of them. Luigi was born 16 Jan 1862 and his sister Tommasina was born 20 Jun 1850.

Please let me know if you are still searching. I can provide more info and I'd be interested in what happened to them when they came to the US. BTW, Braca is also a common name from Campochiaro.

Elena

[DeFilippis78]

Another consideration is misspelling of the surname. For a long time I thought my GG grandmother had a particular surname. I searched and searched for a ship manifest and found nothing. So I decided to order some of her childrens social apps to see if there were indiscrepancies in the spelling of the surname. And low and behold, I found out it was spelled wrong. One child spelled their mothers name one way and the other child spelled it another. Once I had the right spelling it all fell into place. So Ive learned its a good idea to cross reference with several documents the spellings of the last name when it seems to be a dead end finding info

Alicia

[figlia]

So much has been lost in translation and transcribing. I have found my grandfathers name spelled 6 different ways.
I am also trying to find where his entry point was, it wasn't Ellis Island or Boston. I have been looking everywhere.