What kind of hat is this?

General Non-Genealogy Discussions.
Ask questions, chat and talk about anything.
Post Reply
User avatar
Edmondo
Staff
Staff
Posts: 777
Joined: 11 Jul 2002, 00:00
Location: Amsterdam, the Netherlands
Contact:

What kind of hat is this?

Post by Edmondo »

What kind of hat is this?
User avatar
misbris
Master
Master
Posts: 2263
Joined: 14 Jan 2007, 00:00
Location: NJ

Re: What kind of hat is this?

Post by misbris »

The crown on top leads me to believe the RI stands for Royal Infantry.

I found a few images that are close from England, Australia and Canada. What do you think?

http://www.lightinfantry.org.uk/images/ ... ge1905.jpg


http://www.defence.gov.au/army/rainf/
User avatar
Edmondo
Staff
Staff
Posts: 777
Joined: 11 Jul 2002, 00:00
Location: Amsterdam, the Netherlands
Contact:

Re: What kind of hat is this?

Post by Edmondo »

I believe that it is an army hat and RI stands for Republica Italiana but I am not sure.

My father told me it is the hat of my grandfather. It is old but I don't know how old.
Tandem fit surculus arbor
User avatar
carolinechurch
Veteran
Veteran
Posts: 150
Joined: 14 Oct 2009, 02:59
Location: Auckland, New Zealand

Re: What kind of hat is this?

Post by carolinechurch »

Is there a makers label inside?
Searching for my great x3 grandfather Raffaele CIACCIA, also known as Raphael/Ralph CHURCH. He was born in Napoli around 1792 and arrived in London before 1812 with his brother Saverio CIACCIA, where they married sisters Ann and Jane FURNEAUX. He switched between CHURCH and CIACCIA all his life, which has made it difficult enough to pin him down. I want to find his origin in Italy.
User avatar
Tessa78
Master
Master
Posts: 17534
Joined: 07 Sep 2009, 18:09

Re: What kind of hat is this?

Post by Tessa78 »

It reminds me of the hat of my grandfather's brother who played in the comune's band in 1921.

http://www.strongoli.org/scheda.asp?id=221

T.
User avatar
Squigy
Master
Master
Posts: 724
Joined: 02 Jun 2009, 06:05
Location: Texas, USA (Born in Pennsylvania)

Re: What kind of hat is this?

Post by Squigy »

Edmondo wrote:I believe that it is an army hat and RI stands for Republica Italiana but I am not sure.

My father told me it is the hat of my grandfather. It is old but I don't know how old.
When was your grandfather born? That way you can judge when he would have been in the military, and whether it would be a hat for the republic or the kingdom of Italy.
User avatar
Edmondo
Staff
Staff
Posts: 777
Joined: 11 Jul 2002, 00:00
Location: Amsterdam, the Netherlands
Contact:

Re: What kind of hat is this?

Post by Edmondo »

Thank you Tessa.
I think you are right, I know my grandfather played in the comune's band and the hats indeed look the same.

@carolinechurch, I will check next time if there is a makers label inside.

Tessa78 wrote:It reminds me of the hat of my grandfather's brother who played in the comune's band in 1921.

http://www.strongoli.org/scheda.asp?id=221

T.
User avatar
Edmondo
Staff
Staff
Posts: 777
Joined: 11 Jul 2002, 00:00
Location: Amsterdam, the Netherlands
Contact:

Re: What kind of hat is this?

Post by Edmondo »

He was born in 1916 and I know he was a military in WW2, that is why I thougt it is a military hat.
Squigy wrote:
Edmondo wrote:I believe that it is an army hat and RI stands for Republica Italiana but I am not sure.

My father told me it is the hat of my grandfather. It is old but I don't know how old.
When was your grandfather born? That way you can judge when he would have been in the military, and whether it would be a hat for the republic or the kingdom of Italy.
User avatar
johnnyonthespot
Master
Master
Posts: 5229
Joined: 04 Aug 2008, 15:01
Location: Connecticut, USA

Re: What kind of hat is this?

Post by johnnyonthespot »

I am not certain as to how complete it is (not being able to easily read Italian makes it difficult for me to tell..) but Italy's Ministry of Defense website has a page titled "Uniformi e Tradizioni" here: http://www.difesa.it/Uniformi+e+Tradizioni/

Click around through it and you can see many images of uniforms through the years.
Carmine

My hobby is finding things. Having found most of my own, I am happy to help others find theirs. PM me! :)
User avatar
johnnyonthespot
Master
Master
Posts: 5229
Joined: 04 Aug 2008, 15:01
Location: Connecticut, USA

Re: What kind of hat is this?

Post by johnnyonthespot »

I have to say, the cap's style appears to be too "old" for the WWII period based on the images here: http://www.diggerhistory.info/pages-uniforms/italy2.htm
Carmine

My hobby is finding things. Having found most of my own, I am happy to help others find theirs. PM me! :)
User avatar
johnnyonthespot
Master
Master
Posts: 5229
Joined: 04 Aug 2008, 15:01
Location: Connecticut, USA

Re: What kind of hat is this?

Post by johnnyonthespot »

Not certain if this is his most current website/contact details ( http://rudydangelo.tripod.com/about.htm ), but Rudy D'Angelo of Farmington, Connecticut is a buyer/seller/collector of Italian militaria.

Perhaps he might be able to identify the cap?
Carmine

My hobby is finding things. Having found most of my own, I am happy to help others find theirs. PM me! :)
User avatar
Julo
Rookie
Rookie
Posts: 61
Joined: 31 Mar 2006, 00:00

Re: What kind of hat is this?

Post by Julo »

RI stands for Repubblica Italiana but I could not tell you the military branch of that hat.
User avatar
Edmondo
Staff
Staff
Posts: 777
Joined: 11 Jul 2002, 00:00
Location: Amsterdam, the Netherlands
Contact:

Re: What kind of hat is this?

Post by Edmondo »

carolinechurch wrote:Is there a makers label inside?
I checked and there is no label. Also I am sure now it was my grandfathers hat he used when he played in the comune's band of Valle dell'Angelo (SA). He played the flicorno (saxhorn) :)

Thank you all for your help!
Post Reply