Searching for Antonia Failla (Married name)
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Searching for Antonia Failla (Married name)
I am searching for my fiancee's great-grandmother, Antonia Failla. Failla is her married name. I don't have any details about her. Her husband was Antonio Failla. He was born in 1872 in Castelbuono, Sicily. He sailed on the S.S. Marco Minghetti, which sailed from Palermo on March 22, 1904 and arrived in New York on April 11, 1904.
He was going to stay with his mother, Giuseppa Failla. I don't know anything about her, either, or any ancestors. His son, Louis, was born July 26, 1905 in Philadelphia. So Antonio must have been with Antonia within 6 months. At least she was pregnant with Louis. Louis had two brothers: Michele and Joseph. I have no information about those two. I don't know whether they were born in the United States or Italy.
According to my fiancee's mother, when Louis was about 4 years old, they went back to Italy. Probably to Castelbuono, since I saw Louis' passenger list in 1924. He had been staying there at least. I really would like to find out more about Antonia. Thank you very much for your time.
He was going to stay with his mother, Giuseppa Failla. I don't know anything about her, either, or any ancestors. His son, Louis, was born July 26, 1905 in Philadelphia. So Antonio must have been with Antonia within 6 months. At least she was pregnant with Louis. Louis had two brothers: Michele and Joseph. I have no information about those two. I don't know whether they were born in the United States or Italy.
According to my fiancee's mother, when Louis was about 4 years old, they went back to Italy. Probably to Castelbuono, since I saw Louis' passenger list in 1924. He had been staying there at least. I really would like to find out more about Antonia. Thank you very much for your time.
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Re: Searching for Antonia Failla (Married name)
I saw another document that may indicate Antonia's maiden name was Abbate.
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for references the arrival manifest:He sailed on the S.S. Marco Minghetti, which sailed from Palermo on March 22, 1904 and arrived in New York on April 11, 1904.
Antonio Failla, age 32, single, shoemaker,from Castelbuono to New York to join his brother Giuseppe Failla
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0027
are these dates correct?
Laura
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1924 arrival manifest for Luigi Failla:siskojnash wrote:I saw another document that may indicate Antonia's maiden name was Abbate.
page 1:
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0030
page 2:
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0030
Luigi Failla, age 18, single, US born, Certificate Phila 17369, from Castelbuono, living in Italy his father Antonio Failla, joining his uncle Abbate Giuseppe living on 1021 Federal Street Phila
Laura
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from Ancestry.com the 1930 census for Abbate Giuseppe (Luigi's uncle)
1930 United States Federal Census
about Joseph Abato
Name: Joseph Abato
Home in 1930: Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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Age: 58
Estimated birth year: abt 1872
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Anna
Race: White
Occupation:
Education:
Military service:
Rent/home value:
Age at first marriage:
Parents' birthplace: View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Abato 58 head, born in IT, immigr. year 1906
Anna Abato 56 wife, born in IT, immigr. yera 1906
address: 1021 Federal Street
image:
http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=PqvfmrS
Laura
edi to add:
1906 arrival manifest for:
Giuseppe Abbate, ag3 33, married, from Castelbuono to Philadelphia to join his cousin Michelangelo Failla living on 1021 Federal street, travelling with his wife Anna Mazzola, age 21?, Giuseppe stated he was in the U.S before..
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0006
1930 United States Federal Census
about Joseph Abato
Name: Joseph Abato
Home in 1930: Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
View Map
Age: 58
Estimated birth year: abt 1872
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Anna
Race: White
Occupation:
Education:
Military service:
Rent/home value:
Age at first marriage:
Parents' birthplace: View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Abato 58 head, born in IT, immigr. year 1906
Anna Abato 56 wife, born in IT, immigr. yera 1906
address: 1021 Federal Street
image:
http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=PqvfmrS
Laura
edi to add:
1906 arrival manifest for:
Giuseppe Abbate, ag3 33, married, from Castelbuono to Philadelphia to join his cousin Michelangelo Failla living on 1021 Federal street, travelling with his wife Anna Mazzola, age 21?, Giuseppe stated he was in the U.S before..
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0006
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Re: Searching for Antonia Failla (Married name)
Wow. Can you please post the 1906 arrival manifest for Giuseppe Abbate and Anna Mazzola so that I could download it and add it to the family tree?
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I just typed Joseph's birth year into the ancestry family tree. It showed a 1920 Census, WWI Draft Registration, and even registration records for Italy for the name Giuseppe Abbate. His birth date was December 8, 1872 according to the WWI info. I don't have access to the files from here. Could you please post those files, if you have time?
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from Ancestry.com:
New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Guiseppe Abbate
Name: Guiseppe Abbate
Arrival Date: 24 May 1906
Birth Year: abt 1873
Age: 33
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/RaceÂ/Nationality: Italian (South) (Italian)
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Germania
Search Ship Database: Search the Germania in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
image:
http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gx7R0y9
are you sure about the first name of Antonia Abbate?
Laura
New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Guiseppe Abbate
Name: Guiseppe Abbate
Arrival Date: 24 May 1906
Birth Year: abt 1873
Age: 33
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/RaceÂ/Nationality: Italian (South) (Italian)
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Germania
Search Ship Database: Search the Germania in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
image:
http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gx7R0y9
are you sure about the first name of Antonia Abbate?
Laura
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I know Antonio Failla was married to Antonia. Luigi Failla, her son, was staying with his uncle Giuseppe Abbate. So I guess I don't know that part for sure.
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Re: Searching for Antonia Failla (Married name)
Have you seen this website before: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.anc ... index8.htm
It has marriage and birth indexes for Palermo. I've found several things on this site. There are also alot of Abbate's listed. I wonder if they're relatives.
It has marriage and birth indexes for Palermo. I've found several things on this site. There are also alot of Abbate's listed. I wonder if they're relatives.
Re: Searching for Antonia Failla (Married name)
I don't believe so because Castelbuono is a town 55 miles far from Palermo, it's another "Comune" , Abbate is a common lastname through all Italy:
http://www.gens.labo.net/it/cognomi/genera.html
1920 United States Federal Census
about Giuseppe Abatte
Name: Giuseppe Abatte
[Guiseppe Abatte]
Home in 1920: Philadelphia Ward 26, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Age: 48
Estimated birth year: abt 1872
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
[Head]
Spouse's name: Anna
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Year of Immigration: 1906
Able to read: No
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Giuseppe Abatte 48 head, born in IT, immigr. year 1906
Anna Abatte 47 wife born in IT, immigr. year 1906
Rosalia Abatte 24 daughter, single, immigr. year 1907
Anna Abatte 6 daughter, born in PA
Jack Abatte 3 son, born in PA
Helen Abatte 1 daughter, born in PA
Anthony Gugliuzzo 28 boarder
http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=TsTxGTi
WWI Civilian Draft Registrations
about Giuseppe Abate
Name: Abate, Giuseppe
Birth Date: 8 Dec 1872
Birth Place: Citizen of Italy
City/County: Philadelphia# 22
State: PA
Ethnicity: W
1907 arrival manifest for Rosalia abbate the first daughter born in Italy:
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0008
Laura
http://www.gens.labo.net/it/cognomi/genera.html
1920 United States Federal Census
about Giuseppe Abatte
Name: Giuseppe Abatte
[Guiseppe Abatte]
Home in 1920: Philadelphia Ward 26, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Age: 48
Estimated birth year: abt 1872
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
[Head]
Spouse's name: Anna
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Year of Immigration: 1906
Able to read: No
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Giuseppe Abatte 48 head, born in IT, immigr. year 1906
Anna Abatte 47 wife born in IT, immigr. year 1906
Rosalia Abatte 24 daughter, single, immigr. year 1907
Anna Abatte 6 daughter, born in PA
Jack Abatte 3 son, born in PA
Helen Abatte 1 daughter, born in PA
Anthony Gugliuzzo 28 boarder
http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=TsTxGTi
WWI Civilian Draft Registrations
about Giuseppe Abate
Name: Abate, Giuseppe
Birth Date: 8 Dec 1872
Birth Place: Citizen of Italy
City/County: Philadelphia# 22
State: PA
Ethnicity: W
1907 arrival manifest for Rosalia abbate the first daughter born in Italy:
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0008
Laura
Re: Searching for Antonia Failla (Married name)
Forgot the 1910:
1910 United States Federal Census
about Joseph Abada
Name: Joseph Abada
Age in 1910: 37
Estimated birth year: abt 1873
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Spouse's name: Anna
Home in 1910: Philadelphia Ward 26, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of Immigration: 1906
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Abada 37 head, born in IT
Anna Abada 35 wife, born in IT
Rosina Abada 14 daughter, born in IT
Joseph Persogonio 23 boarder
Vincent Digallo 21 boarder
Peter Letto 24 boarder
Antonio De Garbo 23 boarder
Frank Gentile 23 boarder
Stephano Wolonza 21 boarder
address: 1021 Federal Street....
http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=TsTAEY0
Laura
1910 United States Federal Census
about Joseph Abada
Name: Joseph Abada
Age in 1910: 37
Estimated birth year: abt 1873
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Spouse's name: Anna
Home in 1910: Philadelphia Ward 26, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of Immigration: 1906
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Abada 37 head, born in IT
Anna Abada 35 wife, born in IT
Rosina Abada 14 daughter, born in IT
Joseph Persogonio 23 boarder
Vincent Digallo 21 boarder
Peter Letto 24 boarder
Antonio De Garbo 23 boarder
Frank Gentile 23 boarder
Stephano Wolonza 21 boarder
address: 1021 Federal Street....
http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=TsTAEY0
Laura
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Thank you! Could you please post the arrival manifest for Rosalia Abbate in 1907 and the World War 1 Draft for Giuseppe Abbate? I was just trying to search for Michelangelo Failla, who Giuseppe was going to stay with at 1021 Federal Street. I came across one where the date of arrival was April 21, 1905. Do you think that could be the same person? He was apparently going to Philadelphia.
That one is the S.S. Lombardia, sailing from Palermo on April 6th 1905 and arriving in New York on April 21st. Could you please post this passenger list also? It's funny it's that particular ship because that one is the same one that brought other family members over about a year before.
I did a search on ancestry for the name Michelangelo Failla. The only listings were for passenger lists. I tried adding an a after the h, but got nothing there. I wonder if other documents exist for him.
That one is the S.S. Lombardia, sailing from Palermo on April 6th 1905 and arriving in New York on April 21st. Could you please post this passenger list also? It's funny it's that particular ship because that one is the same one that brought other family members over about a year before.
I did a search on ancestry for the name Michelangelo Failla. The only listings were for passenger lists. I tried adding an a after the h, but got nothing there. I wonder if other documents exist for him.
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When I did a search for Giuseppe Abbate on ancestry, I noticed that there was a link to Como & Lecco Civil Registration Records. Would that record have anything to do with this Giuseppe Abbate?
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According to the 1920 Census, Giuseppe Abbate (or Abatte) was naturalized in 1919. Would it be possible to find those documents?