Hi all, and good year!
Thanks all for replies, many help for me:
Waiting some other infos from mfjp, about Maria Pellegrina and Julius on census, all infos are welcome to me! thanks! Hi Peter, about article... send me the txt, or URL.. are possible? thank you!!!
suanj
surnames: Bocchi & Viaggi
Re: surnames: Bocchi & Viaggi
Buon giorno! Suanj, fratelli o sorelle per Giovanni? Preparerò un manifesto per "link"... niente solido pero...
http://img93.exs.cx/img93/930/marjiong19105mk.jpg
Name:  Julius Jiongo
Home in 1900:  Knight, Iron, Wisconsin
Age:  27
Estimated birth year:  1873
Birthplace:  Austria
Race:  White
Relationship to head-of-house:  Head
Occupation:  View Image
Immigration year:  1893
Image source:  Year: 1900; Census Place: Knight, Iron, Wisconsin; Roll: T623 1791; Page: 9B; Enumeration District: 40.
Name:  Mary Jiongo
Home in 1900:  Knight, Iron, Wisconsin
Age:  38
Estimated birth year:  1862
Birthplace:  Italy
Race:  White
Relationship to head-of-house:  Wife
Occupation:  View Image
Immigration year:  1889
Image source:  Year: 1900; Census Place: Knight, Iron, Wisconsin; Roll: T623 1791; Page: 9B; Enumeration District: 40.
mfjp
http://img93.exs.cx/img93/930/marjiong19105mk.jpg
Name:  Julius Jiongo
Home in 1900:  Knight, Iron, Wisconsin
Age:  27
Estimated birth year:  1873
Birthplace:  Austria
Race:  White
Relationship to head-of-house:  Head
Occupation:  View Image
Immigration year:  1893
Image source:  Year: 1900; Census Place: Knight, Iron, Wisconsin; Roll: T623 1791; Page: 9B; Enumeration District: 40.
Name:  Mary Jiongo
Home in 1900:  Knight, Iron, Wisconsin
Age:  38
Estimated birth year:  1862
Birthplace:  Italy
Race:  White
Relationship to head-of-house:  Wife
Occupation:  View Image
Immigration year:  1889
Image source:  Year: 1900; Census Place: Knight, Iron, Wisconsin; Roll: T623 1791; Page: 9B; Enumeration District: 40.
mfjp
Re: surnames: Bocchi & Viaggi
Hi Again,
Manifest and map of Iron Mountain
The manifests are difficult to find with the exact name... but there are other Bocchi who travelled about the same time.
Map
http://img138.exs.cx/img138/3928/ironmount3uj.jpg
This Giovanni was a "waiter" see person 331
http://img138.exs.cx/img138/1938/giovwait9hc.jpg
Name:  Giovanni Bocca (waiter)
Arrival Date:  16 Aug 1886
Estimated Birth Year:  1856
Age:  30
Gender:  Male
Port of Departure:  Le Havre, France
Destination:  New York
Place of Origin:  Italy
Ship Name:  Normandie
Port of Arrival:  New York
Line:  39
Microfilm Roll:  497
List Number:  978
mfjp
Manifest and map of Iron Mountain
The manifests are difficult to find with the exact name... but there are other Bocchi who travelled about the same time.
Map
http://img138.exs.cx/img138/3928/ironmount3uj.jpg
This Giovanni was a "waiter" see person 331
http://img138.exs.cx/img138/1938/giovwait9hc.jpg
Name:  Giovanni Bocca (waiter)
Arrival Date:  16 Aug 1886
Estimated Birth Year:  1856
Age:  30
Gender:  Male
Port of Departure:  Le Havre, France
Destination:  New York
Place of Origin:  Italy
Ship Name:  Normandie
Port of Arrival:  New York
Line:  39
Microfilm Roll:  497
List Number:  978
mfjp
Re: surnames: Bocchi & Viaggi
VaDeb - thank you! never even looked for a census of 1890 until recently... what a loss... only about 6100 of the census sheets remain...
If we had the exact death date, it would help.
suanj, here is another Giovanni Bocchi... who knows... maybe a cousin?
First Name: Giovanni
Last Name: Bocchi
Ethnicity: Italy
Last Place of Residence: Pontremoli, Italy
Date of Arrival: May 27, 1910
Age at Arrival:  41y    Gender:  M    Marital Status:  M ÂÂ
Ship of Travel: La Lorraine
Port of Departure: Havre
Manifest Line Number: 0030
Happy New Year to all...
If we had the exact death date, it would help.
suanj, here is another Giovanni Bocchi... who knows... maybe a cousin?
First Name: Giovanni
Last Name: Bocchi
Ethnicity: Italy
Last Place of Residence: Pontremoli, Italy
Date of Arrival: May 27, 1910
Age at Arrival:  41y    Gender:  M    Marital Status:  M ÂÂ
Ship of Travel: La Lorraine
Port of Departure: Havre
Manifest Line Number: 0030
Happy New Year to all...
Re: surnames: Bocchi & Viaggi
I am under the impression that Suanj is sort of in charge because she is not only the person who made the inquiry but also most capable to sort things out. i know you mean well but your "A" personality is coming thru. Peter
Re: surnames: Bocchi & Viaggi/good news
GREAT mfjp!!mfjp wrote:Buon giorno! Suanj, fratelli o sorelle per Giovanni? Preparerò un manifesto per "link"... niente solido pero...
http://img93.exs.cx/img93/930/marjiong19105mk.jpg
Name:  Julius Jiongo
Home in 1900:  Knight, Iron, Wisconsin
Age:  27
Estimated birth year:  1873
Birthplace:  Austria
Race:  White
Relationship to head-of-house:  Head
Occupation:  View Image
Immigration year:  1893
Image source:  Year: 1900; Census Place: Knight, Iron, Wisconsin; Roll: T623 1791; Page: 9B; Enumeration District: 40.
Name:  Mary Jiongo
Home in 1900:  Knight, Iron, Wisconsin
Age:  38
Estimated birth year:  1862
Birthplace:  Italy
Race:  White
Relationship to head-of-house:  Wife
Occupation:  View Image
Immigration year:  1889
Image source:  Year: 1900; Census Place: Knight, Iron, Wisconsin; Roll: T623 1791; Page: 9B; Enumeration District: 40.
mfjp
and good news in new year:
in last days, I council to Rose friend an search request about Iole Bocchi in some Common probable of birth...
WELL: The Fivizzano Common (Massa Carrara province) have replied to ROSE and this is date of birth act:
Bocchi Iole Rosina Luisa
daughter of P. Giovanni Bocchi & Maria Pellegrina Viaggi,
born in Fivizzano the 11 Gennaio (January) 1885 to 14.00 hour..
Perahps with this info about first name of Giovanni( really: P. Giovanni Bocchi) are possible to search also the ship's manifest....
THANKS YOU, Thanks all, Good new year, God Bless!
suanj
Re: surnames: Bocchi & Viaggi
Hi mfjp: are possible to obtain this manifest?
I did see a manifest of a Giovanni who was going back to the USA (this Giovanni made a few trips) to be with his nephew Michele in San Fransisco... I think I should go back to the other side of the USA....
thank you for your great apport!
suanj
I did see a manifest of a Giovanni who was going back to the USA (this Giovanni made a few trips) to be with his nephew Michele in San Fransisco... I think I should go back to the other side of the USA....
thank you for your great apport!
suanj
Re: surnames: Bocchi & Viaggi
Hi suanj, thank you! I have been following things with the Bocchia name.
Name:  Pasq Bucchi
Arrival Date:  26 Apr 1888
Estimated Birth Year:  1848
Age:  40
Gender:  Male
Port of Departure:  Naples, Italy
Destination:  New York
Place of Origin:  Italy
Ship Name:  Neustria
Port of Arrival:  New York
Line:  22
Microfilm Roll:  518
List Number:  514
Name:  Pietra(o) Bocchia
Arrival Date:  28 Mar 1883
Estimated Birth Year:  1862
Age:  21
Gender:  Male
Port of Departure:  Le Havre, France and Plymouth, England
Destination:  United States of America
Place of Origin:  Italy
Ship Name:  Amerique
Port of Arrival:  New York
Line:  21
Microfilm Roll:  463
List Number:  334
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About the Giovanni Bocchi
Here is a link (page one is missing) to the Giovanni Bocchi (I had mentioned in an earlier post) going to be with his nephew Michele in San Francisco. Giovanni also made another trip in 1909... and I will look for that manifest too.
http://ellisisland.org/search/shipManif ... 1356040266&
First Name: Giovanni
Last Name: Bocchi
Ethnicity: Italy
Last Place of Residence: Pontremoli, Italy
Date of Arrival: May 27, 1910
Age at Arrival:  41y    Gender:  M    Marital Status:  M ÂÂ
Ship of Travel: La Lorraine
Port of Departure: Havre
Manifest Line Number: 0030
Other people from the same manifest - from Pontremoli were
0014. Vicari, Ambrogio M 23y S Italy Pontremolo, Italy
0015. Bocchi, Francesco M 33y M Italy Pontremolo, Italy
A few Bocchi's in California too...
mfjp
So far (and not finished yet) these are some of the "P" Bocchi's or names that I have found... but nothing solid.Perahps with this info about first name of Giovanni( really: P. Giovanni Bocchi) are
Name:  Pasq Bucchi
Arrival Date:  26 Apr 1888
Estimated Birth Year:  1848
Age:  40
Gender:  Male
Port of Departure:  Naples, Italy
Destination:  New York
Place of Origin:  Italy
Ship Name:  Neustria
Port of Arrival:  New York
Line:  22
Microfilm Roll:  518
List Number:  514
Name:  Pietra(o) Bocchia
Arrival Date:  28 Mar 1883
Estimated Birth Year:  1862
Age:  21
Gender:  Male
Port of Departure:  Le Havre, France and Plymouth, England
Destination:  United States of America
Place of Origin:  Italy
Ship Name:  Amerique
Port of Arrival:  New York
Line:  21
Microfilm Roll:  463
List Number:  334
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About the Giovanni Bocchi
Here is a link (page one is missing) to the Giovanni Bocchi (I had mentioned in an earlier post) going to be with his nephew Michele in San Francisco. Giovanni also made another trip in 1909... and I will look for that manifest too.
http://ellisisland.org/search/shipManif ... 1356040266&
First Name: Giovanni
Last Name: Bocchi
Ethnicity: Italy
Last Place of Residence: Pontremoli, Italy
Date of Arrival: May 27, 1910
Age at Arrival:  41y    Gender:  M    Marital Status:  M ÂÂ
Ship of Travel: La Lorraine
Port of Departure: Havre
Manifest Line Number: 0030
Other people from the same manifest - from Pontremoli were
0014. Vicari, Ambrogio M 23y S Italy Pontremolo, Italy
0015. Bocchi, Francesco M 33y M Italy Pontremolo, Italy
A few Bocchi's in California too...
mfjp
Re: surnames: Bocchi & Viaggi
Well mfjp, this Giovanni in 1910 is not our Giovanni, why died in 1893!!
for others record in your posting I want to analyze it... mfjp, i send an private message now, many thanks for all apport, suanj
for others record in your posting I want to analyze it... mfjp, i send an private message now, many thanks for all apport, suanj
Re: surnames: Bocchi & Viaggi
Yes I knew that he died (later in the research)... but since you asked for the manifest... I posted it. mfjp