What does the phrase 'Del Predetto' Mean?

[Irishinamerica]

OK - I've been wondering this for a few months. My great great grandfather's baptism record says 'del predetto' at the bottom when it talks about his essendo padrino e madrina.

So when it says:

Carlo 'del predetto' Giacomo Rolle (padrino) and then Maria 'del predetto' Bartolomeo Rolle (madrina)....what does this mean?

[liviomoreno]

del predetto = of the aforesaid

Carlo '(son) of the aforesaid' Giacomo Rolle

[Irishinamerica]

Thank you -- but I'm still not sure that I understand. I see that my great great grandfather's name was Giacomo Carlo Bartolomeo Rolle - and that it is explaining how the family gave him those names.

But Giacomo CB Rolle's father was Giuseppe -- and Giuseppe's father was also Giacomo Rolle.

What I'm not understanding is who 'Carlo' is.

Any ideas?

[liviomoreno]

From what you wrote

My great great grandfather's baptism record says 'del predetto' at the bottom when it talks about his essendo padrino e madrina.

So when it says:

Carlo 'del predetto' Giacomo Rolle (padrino) and then Maria 'del predetto' Bartolomeo Rolle (madrina)....what does this mean?

I understand that godfather was Carlo son of the aforesaid Giacomo Rolle and godmother was Maria daughter of the above mentioned Bartolomeo Rolle.

If you post the document I may be more precise.

[Irishinamerica]

That makes sense!

Here's the baptism record...



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[liviomoreno]

No Bartolomeo Rolle is mentioned in the document and I would assume that the priest made a mistake and intended to write Bartolomeo Rostagno

Carlo is a brother of Giuseppe Rolle and Maria is a sister of Caterina Rostagno

Both Carlo and Bartolomeo, grandfathers of the newborn, were alive when he was baptized.

[Irishinamerica]

Thank you - Carlo Rolle and Maria Rostagno are new names for me to look for!