Great Grandparents

[jcira]

I always seem to get stopped at my Great Grandparents.They were from Sicily but not sure where. Found him in the 1930 census living with his son.His name is Nickolas Cira her name is Mary Longo.The census says he immigrated here in 1894,born in 1873.I cannot find any info except this census and a death certificate.

[PeterTimber]

I need a location of where he was living when he got here in 1894, if known, where in 1930 and when and where did he die. =Peter=

[pink67]

Maybe this could be the 1930 census?

1930 United States Federal Census
about Nickolas Cira
Name: Nickolas Cira
Home in 1930: Chicago, Cook, Illinois
Age: 56
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relation to Head of House: Father
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Leo Cira 28 head
Alice Cira 23 wife
Mary Cira 2 11/12 daughter
Nickolas Cira 56 father


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I found a 1910 census... ages don't match but the family was father Nic, mother Mary (immigration year 1895) and son Leonard born in 1901 in Illinois...
Here is:

1910 United States Federal Census
about Mic Shira
Name: Mic Shira
[Nio Thira] perhaps Nic....
Age in 1910: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Spouse's Name: Maria
Home in 1910: Chicago Ward 4, Cook, Illinois
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of Immigration: 1895
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Mic Shira 27
Maria Shira 23
Leonard Shira 9

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and.... maybe it's only a coincidence but as Nickolas's son was named Leonard, would you give a look to this arrival manifest for:

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Leonarda Cira
Name: Leonarda Cira
Arrival Date: 22 May 1890
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Age: 44
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Destination: New York
Place of Origin: Sicily
Ship Name: Bolivia
Search Ship Database: Search the Bolivia in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York
Line: 48
Microfilm Serial: M237
Microfilm Roll: M237_548
List Number: 697
Port Arrival State: New York
Port Arrival Country: United States

Coming from Sicily, travelling with her two sons Nicola/ò, and Domenico....
Do you know if Nickolas had brothers?

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Laura

[PeterTimber]

Laura Castle garden indices shows LeonardO 44 years of age and nicolo and domenico. =Peter=

[pink67]

8O Wow,

so it can be possible that Leonardo Cira (44 years old in 1890) was the grandfather of Leonardo Cira son of Nickolas....

[PeterTimber]

She listed LeonardA as a male so figure its a typo in the records and carried forward to here... but that does make your reasoning quite sound!!! =Peter=

[jcira]

Hi I posted this last year and finally looked at it,was surprised to see answers. Am trying to read where they came from so if anyone can read it let me know

[pink67]

Hi, If you're referring to this arrival manifest:

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Leonarda Cira
Name: Leonarda Cira
Arrival Date: 22 May 1890
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Age: 44
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Destination: New York
Place of Origin: Sicily
Ship Name: Bolivia
Search Ship Database: Search the Bolivia in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York
Line: 48
Microfilm Serial: M237
Microfilm Roll: M237_548
List Number: 697
Port Arrival State: New York
Port Arrival Country: United States

Coming from Sicily, travelling with her two sons Nicola/ò, and Domenico....
Do you know if Nickolas had brothers?

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unfortunately being an early manifest the only place listed as place of origin is Sicily (the region)...

Are these your ancestors?

Laura

[PeterTimber]

Laura, as an aside ,I checked out the social security death records for both Nicolo, nicholas,nickolas, nickey nick Cira as wellas Domenico, Domenick, Domenic Cira and there is no record of their death listed meang they either went back to Italy, or are still living in the USA...Do you happen to know what state they went to live when they got here? =Peter=

[jcira]

The 1910 census I cannot read where they are from.It looks like St- Italian

[pink67]

Usually on the censuses manifests there was only the state from which they were from.... so Italy....
St. Italian possible was for South Italian

Laura

[vj]

my 2 cents

It - Italian

(badly formed 'I')

[suanj]

I guess that the Ciras in Chicago coming from Termini Imerese ( Sicily)....

Leonardo Cira death:
CIRA, LEO N 1904-12-06 CHICAGO 58 YR 00002665 (Cert. n°) COOK
regards,
suanj
PS the right italian spelling is Cirà ( with accent)

[pink67]

Great, Suanj!!!!!