The Polosi/Pesce Connection

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The Polosi/Pesce Connection

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Family history tells me:
1.) My Grandfather Luigi Pesce married Elizabeth Polosi
a.) They were both born in Italy, Luigi in Sianno 29 Aug 1901.
b.) Elizabeth Polosi in Italy, know she died in 1932 during childbirth
with my dad Louis D. Pesce. (6 Sept 1932).- In Massachusetts
-- I have found all kinds of hints on Luigi and his Dad Amadio

---But Elizabeth is invisible- no record of coming to US, no record of death, nothing. I know she is buried with Luigi ( who died a year after her)- In the Holy Cross Cemetery, Malden MA.

Can anyone give me a lead of where to look?
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Hello!
Is this the correct census for Louis & Elizabeth?
possible 1930 census
Elizabeth born abt 1908 in MA, married abt 1925?
Thanks!
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edit: added
note: Pelosi is a possible original spelling
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It looks like it is, So it looks as if her parents were born in Italy, she was born in Massachusetts. must have met louis here and married.
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Based on Valarie's 1930 census find:

Possible 1920 census for Elizabeth Pelosi with parents and siblings
Name: Elizabeth Pelosi
Home in 1920: Boston Ward 5, Suffolk, Massachusetts
Age: 14 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1906
Birthplace: Massachusetts
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Father's Name: James
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Name: Grace
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Single

Household Members: Name Age
James Pelosi 38, musician
Grace Pelosi 37
Elizabeth Pelosi 14
Brigida Pelosi 11
Estha Pelosi 10
Tony Pelosi 12
Clara Pelosi 2

edited to add--
Same family in 1930 living in Everett
Page 2
Household Members: Name Age
James Pelosi 48, musician
May Pelosi 49
Esther Pelosi 20
Anthony Pelosi 14
Clara Pelosi 12

Same family in 1910?
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph? Polosi 28, musician
Marie Polosi 25
Armilinda Polosi 7
Lisa (Elizabeth?) Polosi 3
Bridget Polosi 2

WWII Draft card for Gelsomino Pelosi
Same address as 1930 census
Name: Gelsomino Pelosi
Birth Date: 19 Oct 1880
RESIDENCE: Middlesex, Massachusetts
Birth: Naples, Italy

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Hey Biff!
Neat records - this may match :D
Valarie
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Pretty sure this is Elizabeth’s birth record
(there’s another record for a Brigita Giovannina Pelosi in 1908
at the same address with the same parents
- both daughters matching Biff’s 1910 & 1920 census find)

From NEHGS (subscription site)
New England Historic Genealogical Society

Massachusetts Vital Records 1841-1910
Transcription from town ledger book

Births in the City of Boston
For the year 1907

Record 1683
10 January

Lisetta Brigida Giovanna Pelosi
36 Charter Street

Parents:

Gelsomino (Gersomino on the other record)
Occupation: musician
Born in Italy

Grazia Demartino
Born in Italy

edit: corrected spelling of father's name
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Hi, Valarie,

Your last post confirms the census records and WWII Draft card.

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Naturalization index card record for Gelsomino Pelosi
Name: Gelsomino Pelosi
Birth Date: 19 Oct 1880
Birth Location: Prigenro Avellino, Italy
Spouse: Grace
State: Massachusetts
Locality, Court: District of Masssachusetts, U.S. Circuit and District Courts

Additional naturalization index card record
Name: Gelsomino Pelosi
Age: 59
Birth Date: 19 Oct 1880
Issue Date: 25 Jul 1939
State: Massachusetts
Locality, Court: District of Masssachusetts, District Court

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Great finds Biff :D !
and it's terrific to have a town
Frigento, Avellino, Campania
Valarie

Looks like he had to apply for citizenship twice?
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vj wrote:Great finds Biff :D !
and it's terrific to have a town
Frigento, Avellino, Campania
Valarie

Looks like he had to apply for citizenship twice?
Original docs are on footnote. Can you post?

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You bet :D


edit: added sorted by date

1917 Declaration of Intent

Publication Number: M1368
Publication Title: Petitions and Records of Naturalizations of the
U.S. District and Circuit Courts of the District of Massachusetts, 1906-1929
Publisher: NARA
State: Massachusetts
Court: U.S. District Court
Year: 1917
Date: 04 Oct 1917
Immigrant Full Name: Gelsonino Pelosi
Document Type: Declaration of Intention
Home Country: Italy
Witness 1 Full Name: [Blank]
Witness 2 Full Name: [Blank]
Year Immigrated: 1903

Declaration, more detail

Publication Number: M1368
Publication Title: Petitions and Records of Naturalizations of the
U.S. District and Circuit Courts of the District of Massachusetts, 1906-1929
Publisher: NARA
State: Massachusetts
Court: U.S. District Court
Year: 1923
Date: 27 Sep 1923
Immigrant Full Name: Gelsommo Pelosi
Document Type: Petition for Naturalization
Home Country: Italy
Witness 1 Full Name: Angelo Ruggiro
Witness 2 Full Name: [Blank]
Year Immigrated: 1903
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1923 Petition for Naturalization

Publication Number: M1368
Publication Title: Petitions and Records of Naturalizations of the
U.S. District and Circuit Courts of the District of Massachusetts, 1906-1929
Publisher: NARA
State: Massachusetts
Court: U.S. District Court
Year: 1923
Date: 27 Sep 1923
Immigrant Full Name: Gelsomino Pelosi
Document Type: Petition for Naturalization
Home Country: Italy
Witness 1 Full Name: Eugene J. Ruggiero
Witness 2 Full Name: Rocco D'Avino
Year Immigrated: 1903
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1925 Oath of Allegiance

Publication Number: M1368
Publication Title: Petitions and Records of Naturalizations of the
U.S. District and Circuit Courts of the District of Massachusetts, 1906-1929
Publisher: NARA
State: Massachusetts
Court: U.S. District Court
Year: 1925
Date: 25 May 1925
Immigrant Full Name: Gelsomino Pelosi
Document Type: Oath of Allegiance
Home Country: Italy
Witness 1 Full Name: [Blank]
Witness 2 Full Name: [Blank]
Year Immigrated: 1903
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note - no certificate of arrival
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1917 Boston Directory

Gelsomino appears to have a relative, Giuseppe, also a musician
In 1917, Giuseppe is living at the same address found on Gelsomino’s daughters’ birth records in 1907-8

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possible 1904 manifest
Naples to Boston
Giuseppe joining his brother Gelsomino in Boston
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everyone is great, thanks for the help!
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Hello,

I am Giuseppe Pelosi's great-great granddaughter! I stumbled on this nine year old forum whilst looking for some family genealogy information! Unfortunately, all of the images have been deleted from the hyperlinks. Oral history tells me that, yes, they were both musicians - I had heard they both played for John Philip Sousa's band, but have yet to actually verify that with historical fact.

Any information on who Giuseppe and Gelsomino's parents names were?

Hoping that someone gets a notification of my post all of these years later! Thanks!
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