Lucia DiStefano married Giuseppi(Joseph)Sapienza

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Dear Tiger Perhaps you can bring a copy of the scans to your nearest High Scchiool or University where romance languages are tyaught so that an Italian or Spanish teacher could assist you in translating Latin to English.

On the other hand you might also wish to try your hand at learning some ecclesiatical Latin for future reference by going to www.italatin.com/latin.html. Hey its not homework anymore so you might enjoy it. =Peter=
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Thank you Laura for your help. :) ~ Rita
I know Rosa Sapienza is related to me but Salvatore's father Angelo maybe the son of Joseph Sapienza and his first wife??? I'm not sure...
1.
Baptism of Salvatore Sapienza son of Angelo.
In the date of February 19, 1888 the priest Natale Lavagna (name and last name) baptize a baby born yesterday (so 18 February) from Santa (name) Valenti (surname) and Angelo Sapienza her husband.
The baby was called Salvatore and the godfather was Domenico Nicoloso.

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Baptism of Rosa Sapienza daughter of Giuseppe
In the date of April 16, 1887 the priest Giuseppe Grasso (?) baptize a baby born on April 10, from Lucia Distefano and Giuseppe Sapienza her husband.
The baby was called Rosa (Rosam in latin) and the godmather was Maria Roccella (?)
There is an annotation:
on January 28, 1912 Rose Sapienza married Francesco Venasco (son of Vito and Grazia ....Le...(?) from San Pietro Patti. the marriage was celebrated in the same church of the baptism..

Rita, this is a very simple traduction, if you want a literal version you can post these two documents on the forum and you can use these links to post them:

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You have only to do copy and paste these two links
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Alfio (Alfred)

Alfio Sapienza

he was baptized the day May 13, 1884 , son of Lucia Distefano and Giuseppe Sapienza. Godmather was Giuseppa Distefano.
In this act I can't understan which was the exact day of birth of Alfio....
On the left side there is the Marriage annotation:
August 17, 1910 he married Rosaria Fazio (daughter of Gaetano and Domenica Rizza or Frizza?) from Augusta (maybe the original town of Rosaria?) in New York City, Church of San Joaquin???
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I just found Francesco Sapienza. So I believe I have Rose,Alfio,Frank out of 17 children. I hope I can find them all. :/ this is very hard.
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This is Francesco's and Anna's baptismal documents. 4 out of 17. :)

http://www.calabriangenealogy.googlepag ... MRita1.jpg
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Franciscus Sapienza, baptized April 19, 1893, godmother Domenica Sapienza, born April 4, 1893. Parents: Lucia Proietto and Joseph Sapienza
The side note says: On May 20, 1917 he married Gratia Turco(?), coming from Mezzana(?) in the Church of the Sacred Heart of Jesus and Mary Civitatis Brooklyn America.

http://www.calabriangenealogy.googlepag ... Mrita2.jpg
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Anna Sapienza, baptized July 23, 1899, godmother Anna Distefano, born July 1st, 1899. Parents: Lucia ??? and Joseph Sapienza
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Hi there! I just found Lucia "Proietto" Distefano and Giuseppe (Joseph) Sapienza's Marriage Document! I spoke to my cousin and he told me that this is Joseph's 2nd marriage. I don't know how to download the document but Laura translated it to this...

In the year 1875 day 28 month January at the time 11.55 a.m. in the Comune's hall of Belpasso, open to the public,
in front of me Luigi Dr. Caruso ...(description on his comune's position) are:
1. Sapienza Giuseppe, age 40, farmer, born in Massa annunziata, living in Belpasso, son of Michelangelo (fu = died at the time of this act), residing in Massa annunziata when he was alive, and of Carmela Consoli (died) residing in Massa annunziata during her life
2. Proietto Lucia, age 23, farmer, born in Belpasso, living in Belpasso, daughter of Ignazio (died) living in Belpasso when he was alive, and of Domenica Distefano (died) , living in Belpasso when she was alive
them both asked me to marry them...... etc....etc....
Thank you for all your help. :) Now I'm going to try to find Joseph's 1st wife's name and their children. :)
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TIGER965 wrote:...
2. Proietta Lucia, age 23, farmer, born in Belpasso, living in Belpasso, daughter of Ignazio (died) living in Belpasso when he was alive, and of Domenica Di Stefano (died) , ...
As I wrote in the Gente di mare forum:

Proietto, final "O"

Distefano "no blank and no capital s"

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So now I understand why in this 1909 manifest Lucia declared those strange last name... It seemed Rositta, probably was Proietto-Distefano...

line 10 (crossed out):
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TIGER965 wrote:Alfio (Alfred)

Alfio Sapienza

he was baptized the day May 13, 1884 , son of Lucia Di Stefano and Giuseppe Sapienza. Godmather was Giuseppa di Stefano.
In this act I can't understan which was the exact day of birth of Alfio....
On the left side there is the Marriage annotation:
August 17, 1910 he married Rosaria Fazio (daughter of Gaetano and Domenica Rizza or Frizza?) from Augusta (maybe the original town of Rosaria?) in New York City, Church of San Joaquin???
probable Alfio Sapienza arrival:
Alfio Sapimra (Sapienza) Belpasso 1907 23

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pink67 wrote:So now I understand why in this 1909 manifest Lucia declared those strange last name... It seemed Rositta, probably was Proietto-Distefano...

line 10 (crossed out):
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Laura :wink:
Hi Laura maybe this is the right travel:
Lucia Di Stefano Jun 04, 1909 in travel with Rosa daughter and Salvatore Sapienza son, father giuseppe in Belpasso( husband of Lucia) and joining at Alfio in Maurice st

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also in the travel Sebastiano Motta joining Salvatore Motta brother in Maurice st
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TIGER965 wrote:Alfio (Alfred)

Alfio Sapienza

he was baptized the day May 13, 1884 , son of Lucia Di Stefano and Giuseppe Sapienza. Godmather was Giuseppa di Stefano.
In this act I can't understan which was the exact day of birth of Alfio....
On the left side there is the Marriage annotation:
August 17, 1910 he married Rosaria Fazio (daughter of Gaetano and Domenica Rizza or Frizza?) from Augusta (maybe the original town of Rosaria?) in New York City, Church of San Joaquin???
marriage record
Sapienza Alflo Aug 17 1910 Manhattan 17804 (N° certificate)
Fario (Fazio) Rosaria Aug 17 1910 17804 Manhattan
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.... And I found another arrival (October 26, 1912) about Pasquale SERAFICA leaving in Belpasso his wife Rosa Sapienza and going to the brothe Vito Sapienza.... ... This is strange... Maybe there was another Rosa Sapienza?? Or this Rosa could be an namesake?
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Hi Laura in same travel was also another travel of Alfio Sapienza and Motta Salvatore joining Vito Sapienza brother, father Giuseppe in Belpasso
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I can't find the name of the Church listed on the internet (in Manhattan) to find Alfio Sapienza's Marriage document. :(
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TIGER965 wrote:I can't find the name of the Church listed on the internet (in Manhattan) to find Alfio Sapienza's Marriage document. :(
maybe this webpage can help you.......

The Church apparently closed a few years ago.
Records are now in the care of:


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Estab ZIP Name Address Ph: 212-

1888 10002 St. Joachim (Italian) * Monroe & Catherine xxx-xxxx
Contact St Joseph (3) *

*1924 10002 St. Joseph (3) (Italian) 5 Monroe St 267-8376

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