Hello,
I was wondering whether anyone had any information about a "registry" of Italians from Istria (now part of Croatia) after WWI. Apparently, that area was Italian and then got batted back and forth from Austrian Empire to Kingdom of Italy to Yugoslavia to today Croatia. I want to find out whether my Italian grandfather was registered in Trieste. Thanks!
Registry of Italians from Istria in Trieste
Re: Registry of Italians from Istria in Trieste
Hi There,
Can you provide any further information? What year your grandfather was born or town in istria? Trieste may not have these records if your grandfather wasn't born there.
My ancestors are also from Istria and I haven't come across a general registry. I have written to the local town church and their national archives in pazin. Both have been successful.
Can you provide any further information? What year your grandfather was born or town in istria? Trieste may not have these records if your grandfather wasn't born there.
My ancestors are also from Istria and I haven't come across a general registry. I have written to the local town church and their national archives in pazin. Both have been successful.
Re: Registry of Italians from Istria in Trieste
My grandfather was born in 1906 in a tiny town called San Lorenzo in Istria. I have the original "birth certificate" he used to apply for naturalization, which seems to have been written right before he immigrated rather than when he was born.
The reason I am assuming that there is a registry in Trieste for Istrian Italians who wanted to retain their citizenship is because an employee of an Italian consulate said that to show that my grandfather was Italian for purposes of applying for Italian dual citizenship, he would have needed to be registered in Trieste after WWI. To me, this makes little sense because Istria was part of Italy following WWI and during the year he emigrated (1928), and BOTH Istria and Trieste were part of the Austrian Empire during the year my grandfather was born (1906). Basically, the consulate insists that I prove that my grandfather was Italian somehow, and I'm not sure how to do this. I know that he spoke Italian as his first language and considered himself Italian, that he lived in what was Italy when he emigrated... but they want something more.
Was there some kind of standard registry for Istrian Italians? Since the consulate won't accept a birth certificate issued from what is now in Croatia, what should I use? This doesn't seem fair to me, since it is so obvious he was Italian.
The reason I am assuming that there is a registry in Trieste for Istrian Italians who wanted to retain their citizenship is because an employee of an Italian consulate said that to show that my grandfather was Italian for purposes of applying for Italian dual citizenship, he would have needed to be registered in Trieste after WWI. To me, this makes little sense because Istria was part of Italy following WWI and during the year he emigrated (1928), and BOTH Istria and Trieste were part of the Austrian Empire during the year my grandfather was born (1906). Basically, the consulate insists that I prove that my grandfather was Italian somehow, and I'm not sure how to do this. I know that he spoke Italian as his first language and considered himself Italian, that he lived in what was Italy when he emigrated... but they want something more.
Was there some kind of standard registry for Istrian Italians? Since the consulate won't accept a birth certificate issued from what is now in Croatia, what should I use? This doesn't seem fair to me, since it is so obvious he was Italian.
Re: Registry of Italians from Istria in Trieste
P.S. Thanks for the suggestion about writing the archives in Pazin. I just emailed them to see if they had anything that might help.
Re: Registry of Italians from Istria in Trieste
Hi There,
The archive in Pazin should have a copy of the original birth register or certificate. Any census records also would help indicate he was an Italian citizen. http://en.istat.it/ (you may have some luck with writing to these people also and see if they keep any census archives).
As your grandfather was born under the Austrian Empire, they may get you on a technicality and not grant you dual citizenship.
But, for example, I cannot get dual citizenship under my grandfather because he became an Australian citizen before my father was born but I can under my grandmother as she remained an Italian citizen until after my father was born. This of course may not apply to you but another thing you could look into if your grandmother was from the same area.
Another alternative is to try writing to the State Archive in Trieste and see if they can provide you with any further info;
Archivo Di Stato Di Trieste
Via La Marmora 17
I-34139 Trieste
Good luck!
The archive in Pazin should have a copy of the original birth register or certificate. Any census records also would help indicate he was an Italian citizen. http://en.istat.it/ (you may have some luck with writing to these people also and see if they keep any census archives).
As your grandfather was born under the Austrian Empire, they may get you on a technicality and not grant you dual citizenship.
But, for example, I cannot get dual citizenship under my grandfather because he became an Australian citizen before my father was born but I can under my grandmother as she remained an Italian citizen until after my father was born. This of course may not apply to you but another thing you could look into if your grandmother was from the same area.
Another alternative is to try writing to the State Archive in Trieste and see if they can provide you with any further info;
Archivo Di Stato Di Trieste
Via La Marmora 17
I-34139 Trieste
Good luck!
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Re: Registry of Italians from Istria in Trieste
My late father Giuseppe Podrecca was born in Pinguente now Buzet, in 1937. He told me the Yugoslavians destroyed the italian documents, yet i hear from another source they were transported to friuli venezia giulia
my father served became a refugee before coming to Australia in 1966 where he remained stateless. i doubt that i can get any citizenship through him, and my southern italian mother was naturalised at my birth, but i'd like to see if there is a record of his birth.
my father served became a refugee before coming to Australia in 1966 where he remained stateless. i doubt that i can get any citizenship through him, and my southern italian mother was naturalised at my birth, but i'd like to see if there is a record of his birth.
