Calvary Cemetary in New York
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deejasmine
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Re: Calvary Cemetary in New York
I have his death certificate and Calvary is listed - but when I called (many years ago) they were unable to find him...I have been trying to track his wife in the census to determine her dod but that has been trickier...once I locate her then I can confirm the cemetery and take the next step to confirm BOTH of them.
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Re: Calvary Cemetary in New York
I agree with Sarge736. Most of my family began in the Manhattan/Brooklyn area and I did a lot of my research through the Municipal Archives and have requested many birth, marriage and death certificates. Spelling can be in issue too as reading the handwriting on these certificates can be difficult. My family name of Tommasulo has had certificates of Tomasuli, Tomasulo, Thomasula, etc.
My father told me that there was a family plot in Calvary, and once I obtained the death certificate of my great-great grandfather, I contacted the cemetery with all the info I knew about him and the nice gentleman gave the the plot info. He also said there were 10 other family members buried there, and the plot right next to that was was a plot purchased by his brother for his family. So, my aunt and I decided to pay the cemetery a visit, and we were shocked to find the names of three other children who were buried there that my grandfather never told us. They would have been his aunts and an uncle. Two died at a year, and the other at age 19. Only 8 names are on our family stone, and 11 are buried there so there are three more people, and we do not know who. Maybe they put the names on the back of the stone, but we couldn't see that. When I called the cemetery back to try and get that info, they told me of the cost, and decided not to pursue it. They did tell us though that the two babies were moved from another plot, (and he told us that plot number), and they were reinterred into this new plot that was purchased by my great-great grandmother after her husband passed away.
Ironically, one of my great-grandfather's cousins was kidnapped from the street of Manhattan when he was five years old in 1906 or so, and ransom notes were left with his parents. If you ever get a chance, watch the Ernest Borgnine movie "Pay or Die". It describes what it was like living in Little Early with The Black Hand. This was a perfect case of it, and Detective Joseph Petrosino, the Italian Mob Detective was called to the case, just as in the movie. My grandfather's cousin said he is buried right next to our family plot, and when I went on the Find a Grave site and entered his name, I found his plot, and she was right. I think he is right behind us, or within a few plots.
My father told me that there was a family plot in Calvary, and once I obtained the death certificate of my great-great grandfather, I contacted the cemetery with all the info I knew about him and the nice gentleman gave the the plot info. He also said there were 10 other family members buried there, and the plot right next to that was was a plot purchased by his brother for his family. So, my aunt and I decided to pay the cemetery a visit, and we were shocked to find the names of three other children who were buried there that my grandfather never told us. They would have been his aunts and an uncle. Two died at a year, and the other at age 19. Only 8 names are on our family stone, and 11 are buried there so there are three more people, and we do not know who. Maybe they put the names on the back of the stone, but we couldn't see that. When I called the cemetery back to try and get that info, they told me of the cost, and decided not to pursue it. They did tell us though that the two babies were moved from another plot, (and he told us that plot number), and they were reinterred into this new plot that was purchased by my great-great grandmother after her husband passed away.
Ironically, one of my great-grandfather's cousins was kidnapped from the street of Manhattan when he was five years old in 1906 or so, and ransom notes were left with his parents. If you ever get a chance, watch the Ernest Borgnine movie "Pay or Die". It describes what it was like living in Little Early with The Black Hand. This was a perfect case of it, and Detective Joseph Petrosino, the Italian Mob Detective was called to the case, just as in the movie. My grandfather's cousin said he is buried right next to our family plot, and when I went on the Find a Grave site and entered his name, I found his plot, and she was right. I think he is right behind us, or within a few plots.
Re: Calvary Cemetary in New York
As an FYI, through the efforts of Reclaim the Records (https://www.reclaimtherecords.org), they have been able to obtain the NY Marriage Index and the images are available at the following:
https://archive.org/details/nycmarriageindex&tab=about
They are working on an index but if you know the dates you can scan the images. They are working on obtaining other records as detailed on their website.
https://www.reclaimtherecords.org/records-request/
https://archive.org/details/nycmarriageindex&tab=about
They are working on an index but if you know the dates you can scan the images. They are working on obtaining other records as detailed on their website.
https://www.reclaimtherecords.org/records-request/
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parkergambino
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Re: Calvary Cemetary in New York
I was at Calvary Cemetery last week (please note, no letter "a" in the word cemetery). I went to the office, and the woman working the front desk (Donna) was very helpful, moreso than a different person I spoke to on the phone the day before.
You will need the name of the deceased and the date of death or burial in order to have information retrieved. My great-grandmother died in 1918 and was buried in one of the "potter's field" sections, where there are no markers. However the locations (or at least this location) were recorded according to the cemetery's system, so it is possible to zero in on a location within the cemetery section. I was told that in order to do so, I could phone a day in advance of my next visit, and they would put a temporary marker at the location where the actual burial took place.
My grandparents were also buried at Calvary, in the 1960's and 70's. They were laid to rest in a different section, marked with a headstone. I was given a map showing the various sections of the cemetery, as well as a coded location, during my office visit. Gravestones have a set of small numbers at the lower right corresponding to the location-system code, and it was fairly easy to find the grave using the information provided at the office.
I plan to return some time within the next several months, and would be happy to find a grave, take a picture, or be otherwise helpful. But this may happen quickly, as available time for such tasks sometimes presents itself without much advance notice; so if anyone is to take up this offer, shoot me an email at parkergambino@gmail.com.
And for anyone planning to visit the cemetery in person, this neighborhood is chopped up by two interstate highways, presenting great navigational difficulties for a non-Queens-ite like me trying to approach via the local streets. Better luck if you are traveling "East" on I-278 (Brooklyn-Queens Expressway), take the exit for 48th street and you will be pretty close. I say "East" because if you had a compass in the car, you'd see that you're actually traveling to the north when on this part of the eastbound BQE!
Parker Gambino
You will need the name of the deceased and the date of death or burial in order to have information retrieved. My great-grandmother died in 1918 and was buried in one of the "potter's field" sections, where there are no markers. However the locations (or at least this location) were recorded according to the cemetery's system, so it is possible to zero in on a location within the cemetery section. I was told that in order to do so, I could phone a day in advance of my next visit, and they would put a temporary marker at the location where the actual burial took place.
My grandparents were also buried at Calvary, in the 1960's and 70's. They were laid to rest in a different section, marked with a headstone. I was given a map showing the various sections of the cemetery, as well as a coded location, during my office visit. Gravestones have a set of small numbers at the lower right corresponding to the location-system code, and it was fairly easy to find the grave using the information provided at the office.
I plan to return some time within the next several months, and would be happy to find a grave, take a picture, or be otherwise helpful. But this may happen quickly, as available time for such tasks sometimes presents itself without much advance notice; so if anyone is to take up this offer, shoot me an email at parkergambino@gmail.com.
And for anyone planning to visit the cemetery in person, this neighborhood is chopped up by two interstate highways, presenting great navigational difficulties for a non-Queens-ite like me trying to approach via the local streets. Better luck if you are traveling "East" on I-278 (Brooklyn-Queens Expressway), take the exit for 48th street and you will be pretty close. I say "East" because if you had a compass in the car, you'd see that you're actually traveling to the north when on this part of the eastbound BQE!
Parker Gambino
