Alanno Paternal Lines

[peonygirl]

What a kind person you are! Thank you so much. Domenica de Nardi sounds good to me - it is barely legible. This really is an adventure.....
Best - Peonygirl

[mmogno]

This looks like the marriage record of Anna Saveria Alberico's parents. It takes you back another generation, so a little help towards the four generations you have lost:

Marriage Record No 13: Nicola Alberico and Alba Maria Assetta
Alanno: 8 August 1811, 2 pm
Groom: Nicola Alberico, 31, contadino, living Alanno, son of Carmine, who gives his consent, and deceased Clorinda Assetta

Bride: Alba Maria Assetta, 27, contadina, living in this town, daughter of Silvestro, who gave his consent, and of Domenica de Nardis, who also gave consent.

Banns were posted 30 June and 7 July 1811.

http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... ewsIndex=0

Angela

http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... ewsIndex=0

[peonygirl]

Thank you mmogno. Am I reading correctly that Nicola Alberico married an Assetta - interesting that his mother's name is the same. Let us hope a distant cousin. Although I am finding it is more common than we think -- especially since they were limited to mobility and money.
-- PG

[AngelaGrace56]

Ciao mmogno: Grazie! Ha trovato le pubblicazioni. Il nome "Clorinda" è molto più chiaro qui – e anche il nome "De Nardis".

Hi Peonygirl: The marriage banns that mmogno has located are so much clearer and his corrections are correct. Now that I look at the marriage record, the two names in question are clear to me.

Yes, Nicola Alberico married an Assetta and his mother was also an Assetta. It will be interesting to see how they might be related?

Thought you might be interested in this surname distribution map. I've typed in the name Assetta and you can type in some of your other family names, if you are interested: http://www.gens.info/italia/it/turismo- ... 0Ebgvl96Uk

Keep enjoying the adventure.

Angela

[liviomoreno]

The processetti for Nicola Alberico and Maria Assetta begin here: http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... ewsIndex=0
Nicola was born 12 June 1780 to Carmine and Clorinda Assetta
Alba Maria was born 18 Apr 1784 to Silvestro and Domenica De Nardis
Clorinda Assetta died 5 Nov 1793

[AngelaGrace56]

The processetti for Nicola Alberico and Maria Assetta begin here: http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... ewsIndex=0
Nicola was born 12 June 1780 to Carmine and Clorinda Assetta
Alba Maria was born 18 Apr 1784 to Silvestro and Domenica De Nardis
Clorinda Assetta died 5 Nov 1793

Great find, Livio!

Angela

[mmogno]

http://italia.indettaglio.it/ita/cognom ... ruzzo.html

[peonygirl]

Wow, it’s been busy here! Thank you Livio, Angela, and mmogno! I think that Gaetano Colangelo’s line is filling out nicely.
Must be time to go over to his wife’s side (g grandmother) and see what I can find. I’d welcome your help. Her name was Marta/Maria Squarserio, born c 1850, Alanno. I did find a death act for a Marcellina Squarserio whose father was Domenico Squarserio, mother, Annantonia de Santis. Her spouse was Amedeo Colangelo. She died in 1928, in Alanno. She had a brother, Silvino who was born 1883, d 1896. All of these names are familiar, I just need to zoom in and see if I can find the connecting dots……
I will use the surname distribution (thank you for that!) for helping to find those pesky people who seem to be hiding.
Many thanks - Peonygirl

[AngelaGrace56]

Do you have a link to Gaetano and Maria/Marta's marriage record, or at least a link to their first child's birth record? It's always best to work backwards and saves a lot of time, the marriage record would contain your g grandmother's parents names.

Angela

[AngelaGrace56]

Marriage Record No 7: Gaetano Colangelo e Maria Cristina Squarserio
Alanno: 8 April 1879, 4.20pm

Groom: Gaetano Colangelo, 32yo, contadino (peasant farmer), born and residing Alanno, son of Domenico (Colangelo) and Anna Saveria Alberico, both residing Alanno.

Bride: Maria Cristina Squarserio, 27yo(circa1852), contadina, born and residing Alanno, daughter of the late Silvestro (Squarserio), and Anna Rosaria Odoardi, who both resided in Alanno when living.

Banns were posted on 30 March and 6 April 1879.
http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... 0.jpg.html

So now we know exactly who we are looking for, the parents names,and an estimated birth year, and birth place.

Angela

[mmogno]

Maria Cristina Squarserio was born on 8 April 1851



http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... ewsIndex=0

[AngelaGrace56]

Birth Record No 30: Maria Cristina Squarserio
Alanno: 8 April 1851

Silvestro Squarserio, 37yo (1814), peasant farmer, living Alanno, presened a baby girl, born to Anna Rosaria Odoardi, his legitimate wife, 32 yo(1819), peasant farmer. The baby was born on 8 April 1851, 4pm, and named Maria Cristina Squarserio.

Maria Cristina was baptised in the town church on the same day.
http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... ewsIndex=0

Angela

So the next step would be to find the marriage record of Silvestro Squarserio and Anna Rosaria Odoardi to determine their respective parents names. I'll let you have a look for it. Just remember that because both Silvestro and Anna Rosaria Odoardi were both in their 30s when they had Maria Cristina, they quite possibly married circa 1840's.

So this is where you will be looking, it is set up in years, and it looks like the indices are at the start of each year: http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... Matrimoni/

Have a go and then post the link and we can help with the translation if needed. All the best with this Angela.

Angela

[AngelaGrace56]

Maria Cristina Squarserio was born on 8 April 1851



http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... ewsIndex=0

I'm sorry mmogno. I didn't see your post here before. I have just checked my emails and noticed there was a message saying that you had posted. We were possibly posting at the same time.

Angela

[peonygirl]

Well, I was hoping for a response but I never expected so much. Thank you, Angela for walking me through the process. I am getting used to searching in the State Civil Archives – Antenati - along with my guide, the Italian Genealogical Records book by Trafford Cole. I agree that working backwards is best – I especially love marriage records as they give the parents!

I did not have the birth record, so thank you mmogno, for Maria Cristina’s birth act. It’s fantastic.

I did not have the marriage record so that is wonderful. Lots of good info to use as I delve into her specific history. I did have the children of Gaetano and Maria – both English and Italian records- of their births. Sante Colangelo was only 6 months when he died, so I have both of his. They are Giuseppe, Sante, Maria Domenica, and Silvestro. So now I will focus on Maria’s parents and return with the links and, hopefully, a translation.

You are a great community – thank you so much for helping us out as we struggle along trying to discover our history!
- Peonygirl

[peonygirl]

Granted, it is easy to go down a tunnel when searching. But it helps to have more people, as it gives you more chances to discern information. So, here is what I have so far:

Parents of Maria Cristina Squarserio:
F – Silvestro Squarserio b 1813 in Alanno
M – Anna Rosaria Odoardi, b 1813, d 3 Mar 1893 in Alanno

Children of Silvestro S and Anna Rosaria O:
son – Domenico b c 1848, d 8 Apr 1921, age 73, in Alanno

Children of Domenico Squarserio and Annantonia de S
Donato b 2 Oct 1889
Giovina b 25 May 1887
Anna Rosaria b 31 Aug 1897
Marcellina b 1892, d 18 Jun 1928

This ties in with the record I found for Marcellina Squarserio – I think that means she is my g g aunt ? In any case, we are connected…

Parents of Anna Rosaria Odoardi:
F - Antonio Odoardi
M – Maria Chiulli

Links –
Italia Morti – Anna Rosaria O
http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... 2.jpg.html

English Familysearch
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QK1R-F778

I will look at the Antenati records tomorrow and start fresh – it takes a good deal of concentration. No doubt questions will arise, so will post then. I have to say, Silvestro Squarserio (sr) is pretty elusive but tomorrow is another day…

Many thanks - Peonygirl